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fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-05-10

fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-05-10

May 10, 2011

[02:02:47 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> athena1, no worries, we are here to serve our users (tongue)
[09:35:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura_: are FLUID-4211 and FLUID-4212 the same thing
[09:35:57 CDT(-0500)] <yura_> Justin_o: yes i think so
[09:36:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura_: okay.. i'm going to close yours off as a duplicate thne
[09:36:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> then
[09:36:30 CDT(-0500)] <yura_> Justin_o: sounds good
[09:38:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: hello.. just wondering if you've had a chance to look at my FLUID-4202 branch yet?
[09:44:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> hey Justin_o not yet - what is it again?
[09:45:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> that was for mixed columns, where the fixed column was on the right
[09:46:20 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o ah, ok ill look
[09:46:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: thanks
[10:09:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cindyli: hey
[10:09:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was just talking with Justin_o
[10:09:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> about code review for your UI Options/UI Enhancer pull requests
[10:09:57 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ya, colinclark
[10:10:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> he's got the first round, I think I saw some comments on the pull request in Github for you
[10:10:19 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> working on those
[10:10:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Awesome!
[10:10:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Once those are done, me or Antranig will take a look too
[10:10:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> you've got lots of support on that code (smile)
[10:10:55 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> that would be great!
[10:10:58 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thx
[10:20:30 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: ping
[10:20:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: hello
[10:20:58 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: do you want me to test framework-tests as well for ui 1.8.12?
[10:21:29 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: or just component-tests like 1.8->1.8.11?
[10:21:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: they probably shouldn't be affected, but you might want to run the tests just in case
[10:22:40 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> k
[10:23:28 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: i will do a pull request after testing again (assuming it passes on safari)
[10:23:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: okay.. great..
[10:24:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> so you were able to fix all the problems?
[10:28:51 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: was trying to address ie9 ones but those are the same ones from 1.8 to 1.8.11
[10:29:00 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o, and now looking at the renderer
[10:29:33 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: but i think those fails not because of 1.8.12 but also on Master as well.
[10:30:40 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: so no new issues
[10:30:48 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> what were the errors from 1.8 to 1.8.11
[10:30:53 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: as far as i can tell, no new issues.
[10:31:28 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: IE 9 imageReorderer, and 1 LayoutReorderer test case; http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4164
[11:54:20 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: I have requested a pull-request for #4206. thanks.
[11:54:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: thanks.. i'll try to start looking at that this afternoon
[11:55:37 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: thanks. I will dive back to 1.6 jQuery upgrade.
[11:55:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: okay.
[12:09:02 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - what are the failures in trunk?
[12:10:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: hello.. sorry which failures are you referring to?
[12:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> harriswong mentioned earlier that there were some failures in "Master"
[12:16:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: would you be able to elaborate on what is failing in master, that you've found
[12:17:28 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o, Bosmon: one was on Renderer-test, with FF4
[12:18:19 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o, Bosmon: under framework-tests/renderer.html
[12:19:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: those seem to be passing for me off the daily build site
[12:19:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> in FF4
[12:22:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: this might help http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4206
[12:23:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: for some reason I thought that all the issues that were specific to the 1.8.11 upgrade were fixed
[12:23:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> do these still fail off the daily build for you?
[12:25:06 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: yes daily build works for me.
[12:25:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: okay, but they weren't working in the 1.8.12 upgrade?
[12:26:29 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: but they are not working on my master branch which points to upstream/master
[12:27:33 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: and also the FLUID-4206 branch since it is only a copy from it with the UI's libraries replaced.
[12:27:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: ah
[12:27:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> interesting..
[12:28:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay.. so they are working for you from the daily build site, but not your local master branch?
[12:29:03 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: Yes. I tried on the win7 machine behind me and it is the same.
[12:30:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: local ajax problem?
[12:32:34 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: can you quickly remind me which option am i looking at in about:config please?
[12:33:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: can't remember the exact name, but if you do search for security and then look for strictorigin or something like that
[12:34:35 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: we want false?
[12:35:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think so.. it should be bolded when it has been changed i think
[12:36:06 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: the tests are now passing.
[12:36:24 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: how do we set that in Chrome then?
[12:37:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: that i'm not sure
[12:37:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think yura_ was saying there's a command line argument or something
[12:37:43 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: I guess it updated to 4.0.1 and config got reset?
[12:38:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: could be.. but i don't think mine did.. so i'm not sure..
[12:43:31 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: the other tests that failed are the ones on IE9, including ImageReorderer and LayoutReorderer
[12:44:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: and those are still failing from the build site?
[12:45:25 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: Yes, just confirmed again.
[12:46:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: don't know if you've been following this, but the issues with IE9 are still present
[12:46:25 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: did you file jiras for those by any chance
[12:47:18 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: another that failed on my machine was Cache on XP IE8, it could be because it's a virtual machine?
[12:47:39 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: i do not remember, let me search..
[12:47:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: thanks
[12:52:46 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Remember that with some of the timing-related tests, they will always fail the first time
[12:52:54 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Or rather, the focus/visibility related tests
[12:53:07 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> They depend on the overall browser window having the focus at the time the test starts
[12:53:41 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Bosmon: i noticed individual test passed on IE9. Just not a entire testsuite.
[12:53:44 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> not the*
[12:56:27 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: http://localhost/fluid/infusion/src/webapp/tests/framework-tests/renderer/html/Renderer-test.html
[12:56:39 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: uhhhh bad paste sorry, http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3953
[12:58:32 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: and maybe this one for layout reorderer: FLUID-3954?
[12:59:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: thanks.. i've made those blockers for 1.4.. since we now have to support IE 9
[12:59:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> do you know if the results are still the same.. if not, would you be able to update them
[13:00:49 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: updated comment on #4206
[13:01:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: thanks
[13:01:38 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: ok i will now take a look at FLUID-3953, 3954 and update the issue if needed.
[13:02:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: thanks
[13:20:37 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: i have updated 3953, 3954 with new screenshots and a brief comment.
[13:20:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: great.. thanks
[13:21:37 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> np
[13:43:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Hey mlam, do the Uploader tests work for you in Firefox 4?
[13:43:49 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> They do in my FLUID-4163 branch
[13:43:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ahh, okay
[13:44:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That hasn't been pushed to the master?
[13:44:02 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> There's a pull request for that one
[13:44:04 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> no
[13:44:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> How come?
[13:44:27 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> I don't know?
[13:44:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[13:45:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll get it in
[13:45:29 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> cool, thanks
[13:48:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Hey Justin_o, do you use that Git autocomplete tool you showed us way back in your Git Overview presentation?
[13:49:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes.. it's handy
[13:49:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Anything special required?
[13:49:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Is it just a bash script or something?
[13:49:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yep, pretty sure
[13:49:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[13:49:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> it's mac only though i think
[14:04:25 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Justin_o: do you have both FF4 and FF3.6 on your machine?
[14:04:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: yes
[14:05:02 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> do you have time to try something out for me really quickly off of harris' jkremer branch?
[14:06:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: what would you like me to check
[14:07:24 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> in both browsers, could you put a breakpoint on line 28 of fluidParser.js and run the table of contents tests?
[14:09:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: okay.. i'll take a look
[14:10:02 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok, I just want to make sure something hasn't gone wacko with my test environment
[14:10:19 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> The breakpoint is skipped in FF3.6 for me and hits on FF4
[14:12:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> not hitting on FF4 for me
[14:13:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: not hitting on either FF4 or FF3.6
[14:13:50 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> so the test is just passing?
[14:13:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes
[14:14:42 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> interesting. Ok, good news that my change made the tests work for you (smile)
[14:14:53 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok, thanks Justin_o
[14:15:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: (smile)
[14:20:16 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: i just noticed an update on master, would you like me to re-test 4206 with a merge?
[14:22:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: please merge it...
[14:22:31 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> if you think it will be an issue.. please give it a test.. if not i'll be testing it before i push it in
[14:22:38 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: will do.
[14:22:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: thanks
[14:26:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> mlam: you're fast with your branch merging (smile)
[14:27:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm going to take a look at FLUID-4163 now. Sorry for dropping the ball on this one, I totally forgot
[14:27:19 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> i'm getting paranoid from conflicts with the error handler branch (smile) crustiness is a curse
[14:27:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[14:27:27 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> It's ok (smile)
[14:27:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it really is
[15:18:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> mlam: Looking at these tests, something interesting occurred to me...
[15:18:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> With your mock FormData object, is there really any reason why we'd want to stub out doFormDataUpload() as an empty function?
[15:19:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Wouldn't we rather just provide our mock FormData via IoC?
[15:19:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And then we could even write more and better tests?
[15:20:32 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> checking the source again..
[15:22:56 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> I have the doFormDataUpload() function as an invoker so that we can override this whenever we want. I guess that's overkill?
[15:23:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think the point is that we don't need to override this anymore
[15:23:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we just need to override the invoker that creates the FormData
[15:24:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm going to push my changes to your HTML5 tests up into a branch so you can take a look
[15:24:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> there were two key tests I added that you might be interested in
[15:24:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was thinking that we can even run some of these sorts of tests at the integration level
[15:24:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but I'll get 'em into Github so you can take a look first (smile)
[15:24:54 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok, cool
[15:27:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Here's the raw file, mlam: https://github.com/colinbdclark/infusion/blob/FLUID-4163/src/webapp/tests/component-tests/uploader/js/HTML5UploaderSupportTests.js
[15:27:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And the diff:
[15:27:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> https://github.com/colinbdclark/infusion/commit/f94b8544819b9a4e03282af262a51a50ab1525e8
[15:27:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> A key place to look is at the bottom of the file
[15:28:08 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> of the diff?
[15:28:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The tests for doManualMultipartUpload() and doFormDataUpload()
[15:28:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You'll see that I'm now actually testing that thing we hope is being sent is actually being sent
[15:29:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So in the case of doManualMultipartUpload(), I actually reused your multipart MIME request tests from elsewhere in the file
[15:29:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so I was able to test up to the level that we were actually sending the exact thing we were expecting to send
[15:29:25 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ah, you checked the number of params sent
[15:29:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Yep, and even the content
[15:29:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In the case of FormData, it's pretty trivial--we just expect that the FormData instance gets sent
[15:30:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Anyway, have a look through those changes for a bit
[15:30:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think there are a number of things in here that may be more generally useful
[15:30:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> If we added a few more features to our mock XHR, we could test the Uploader "soup to nuts" as jessm would say
[15:32:29 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> colinclark: in line 95 of the test, are we missing an argument in the function signature?
[15:33:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah
[15:33:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> you see line 94, the function has no arguments, right?
[15:33:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> just an empty "function ()"
[15:33:23 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> yes
[15:33:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> notice below
[15:33:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that.sent = arguments;
[15:33:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "arguments" is a reserved keyword
[15:33:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> in JavaScript
[15:33:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> pointing to an array-like object containing all of the arguments passed to the function
[15:34:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So what we're doing here is saying "you can pass in any arguments you want, and we'll record them as-is"
[15:34:22 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ohhh....
[15:34:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So that way I can actually test how many argument we received, what they contain, etc.
[15:37:14 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok, makes sense
[15:40:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, mlam, I think we're really on to something here
[15:40:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> With this mock FormData object...
[15:40:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and this nascent mock XHR...
[15:40:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we've got all the tools we need to actually get rid of the DemoRemote at some point
[15:40:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Our mock XHR just needs a few more features...
[15:41:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> the ability to fire progress, success, error events
[15:41:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That code is probably all there in the DemoRemote anyway
[15:41:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so we're close
[15:41:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll commit this now for you to look at
[15:41:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> If it passes for you and you like it, I'll push it up to the project repo
[15:41:49 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok, cool
[15:42:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and then if you find yourself looking for more work before code freeze, I think we can improve our tests even more in this direction
[15:43:26 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> sounds good
[15:43:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Here's the latest diff: https://github.com/colinbdclark/infusion/commit/29ecba20c1f92f43888663638ce2fdd9752d622b
[15:44:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But can you check the code out, have a good read through it, and test it on your system for me?
[15:44:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm going to fire up my IE6 VM now, just in case (smile)
[15:44:27 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Yup, sounds good
[15:46:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome, thanks so much
[15:49:41 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> np, thanks for the tweaks, the tests look so much cleaner
[15:50:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Looks like it'll probably be tomorrow for the fileTypes branch merge
[15:50:57 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok
[15:51:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but everything's all set for that now that we have the tests passing and options backward compatibility in place
[15:51:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I just don't know if I'll have quite enough time to get it all in before the end of the day
[15:51:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I guess it depends on how long it takes IE6 to boot up (tongue)
[15:54:58 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> colinclark: all tests pass
[15:55:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome
[15:55:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that's great
[15:58:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The tests are failing in IE, mlam
[15:58:50 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> which IE?
[15:58:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but it's because of Bosmon having introduced JSON2.js as a framework-wide dependency
[15:59:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> not our fault (smile)
[15:59:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> IE6
[15:59:32 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Oh ok, I have it tested on 8 and 9. I don't have IE6 on here
[16:02:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ah, interesting
[16:02:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so IE8 and 9 must have native JSON support
[16:02:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Someday I'd like to have a kind of adaptive Builder running on the server...
[16:03:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which will dynamically build in browser-specific stuff
[16:03:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, for the Uploader, you can imagine that we're really sending along a lot of extra Flash junk to modern browsers
[16:03:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It would be some app running on the server that would recognize the needs of the browser, and deliver custom dependencies like json2.js, FlashUploaderSupport.js, etc.
[16:03:55 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> right
[16:04:11 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> .keave
[16:05:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll get all these tests fixed up and pushed shortly
[16:41:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Hey Bosmon
[16:41:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> How's it going?
[16:41:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It is tolerable
[16:41:59 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Just settling down to an evening of Kettling
[16:42:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So I merged your version of the FLUID-4174-ii branch
[16:42:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and my -iii branch
[16:42:10 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That's cool
[16:42:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so we should have good solid tests for options compatibility in the Uploader
[16:42:19 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> We are getting much better at this branching and merging business (smile)
[16:42:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[16:42:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o had to hold my hand a bit
[16:42:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ... and more general tests for the ModelTransformation system
[16:42:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Those are in
[16:43:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I've been pushing on Uploader today
[16:43:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> tweaks to unit tests
[16:43:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Updating files to import json2.js so that tests run again in IE6, etc.
[16:43:18 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I chatted with Justin about athena's issues from yesterday, and it looks like he has a patch
[16:43:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> great
[16:43:31 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I also need to review the UIOptions work fron cindy
[16:43:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll get mlam's fileTypes branch in tomorrow
[16:43:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> an
[16:43:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I glanced over it, but I thought it would be better to review the whole file
[16:43:54 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I mean, as individual diffs, the diffs look reasonable - but it doesn't mean that they add up to a coherent whole (tongue)
[16:43:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and I'll probably renderize the work harriswong has done on the error messages in Uploader
[16:44:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Okay, so that's mostly what I wanted to confirm
[16:44:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You're cool reviewing cindyli's branch?
[16:44:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And justin_o's fix for Pager?
[16:44:22 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, sure
[16:44:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome
[16:44:31 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> A CATT has come in
[16:44:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> We're not really done with Uploader and options chewing
[16:44:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but we've got something working, upon which we can continue to discuss and refine
[16:45:12 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That's cool
[16:45:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm trying to think if there's anything else...
[16:45:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Dev meeting tomorrow at 12:30 pm your time
[16:46:09 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> yes
[16:46:15 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> What will we talk about
[16:46:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Darcie and I are going to go put the sails up tonight
[16:46:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I haven't thought much about the agenda
[16:46:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I guess we could talk briefly about Anastasiac's email about Screen Navigator
[16:46:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I would like to dive into that tomorrow
[16:46:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it's both worthwhile and fun, I think
[16:47:24 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Perhaps we should talk about options chewing a bit
[16:47:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That'd be great
[16:47:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Although I guess we have sort of declared that as stabilised
[16:47:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Worth telling people about
[16:47:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and showing them some examples
[16:47:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and seeing if they have any ideas
[16:47:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was talking with Yura about it for awhile today
[16:47:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> He was interested
[16:48:09 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I guess also about framework dependencies for 1.4
[16:48:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I need to comment on your JIRA about json2.js
[16:48:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh yes
[16:49:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's pretty much it on my end
[16:49:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm going to hit the road if you're cool
[16:49:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I am wondering whether we shouldn't add FluidIoC.js to InlineEdit
[16:49:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That is, without changing its API
[16:49:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You mean, IoC-ify it?
[16:49:49 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But add it, so that people can boil events if they want to
[16:49:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah
[16:49:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> No, just insert a call to initDependents
[16:50:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's not a terribly idea
[16:50:05 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And otherwise leave it as it is
[16:50:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> terrible
[16:50:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Let's suggest it tomorrow
[16:50:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm hoping that the King is ready to kick us into bug parade by the end of the week
[16:50:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so now is a good time to bring those things up
[16:50:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> We don't have time to refactor it, but we can at least give people a get-out from our terrible API
[16:50:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we should also check in again about the various jQuery upgrades
[16:50:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Seems reasonable
[16:51:19 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I managed to resolve JURA's issue without implementing "subapplier broadcasts"
[16:51:22 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> So we can probably leave that now
[16:51:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that's good (smile)
[16:51:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Solving problems without new features is where we want to be
[16:51:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> ha
[16:51:50 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Death WITHOUT honour (tongue)
[16:52:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Good luck with Kettle tonight
[16:52:13 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Clayton and I need to start prepping for our JA-SIG session next week
[16:52:17 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> We should start talking about that too
[16:52:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Let me know how I can help with that
[16:52:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I have some pictures of the TARDIS you might find helpful (tongue)
[16:52:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> (smile)
[16:52:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> "No Blue Boxes"?
[16:53:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Well, I guess the point is more that we've seen what the Doctor is like when he wanders around alone in it
[16:53:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> he needs to let his friends in
[16:53:26 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> ha
[16:53:47 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> There are some great episodes from 1964 you should see...
[16:53:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ok, enjoy setting up SAILS
[16:53:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks
[16:53:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> see you soon!
[16:54:02 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> With your newfound qualification to be a SEAMAN (smile)