fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-04-15

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[07:43:22 CDT(-0500)] <flyankur> Justin_o, hey
[07:43:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> flyankur: hello
[07:46:11 CDT(-0500)] <flyankur> Justin_o, I was seeking if there is some work being done around drupal themeing using FSS, colinclark told me you are mentoring a project this gsoc around it.
[07:47:38 CDT(-0500)] <flyankur> Justin_o, Any way i can help in drupal related work ?
[07:48:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> flyankur: potentially there will be work done on it through this gsoc project http://wiki.atutor.ca/display/atutorwiki/Google+Summer+of+Code+2011#GoogleSummerofCode2011-3.OneSizeFitsOne%3APersonalizablethemesforWordPress%2CDrupal%2CorMediaWiki
[07:48:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> are you looking to do some volunteer work?
[07:49:56 CDT(-0500)] <flyankur> Justin_o, yes i have a good experience in drupal related UX work , i was seeking if i could co-mentor the project.
[07:50:15 CDT(-0500)] <flyankur> hence i also applied on melange , but i guess my request was rejected !
[07:52:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> flyankur: i'm taking a look at the channel logs from the other day, i'll have to talk to greggy about that
[07:52:51 CDT(-0500)] <flyankur> ok.
[07:54:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> flyankur: do you have any examples of the work you have done?
[08:51:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: do you remember if we wanted to call the base styles base or default
[08:51:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o default seems more explicit but base seems more in line with what other frameworks call it
[08:52:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: okay.. so base then?
[08:52:23 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> sure
[08:52:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> we can have a comment at the top that explains they're default styles (smile)
[08:53:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: (smile) once i get them all split apart, could you take a look.. if you have more thoughts on the naming then for any of the parts, feel free to chat about that
[08:54:23 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o yep i can look it over after. also i looked at yr fl-focus stuff and commented on the issue some fiels that seem to be missing it
[08:54:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: thanks
[08:55:04 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'll take a look over those again today too
[08:59:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: i wonder if we'll have problems with the backwards compatability with the fonts being above the reset and base below.. in the origin fss-reset.css file
[09:00:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o hmm... how would we fix that if so?
[09:00:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: we would either have to split it into 3 files, or leave fonts with the reset
[09:01:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o fonts w/ reset would be bad, so i guess the former. does it really have much effect?
[09:02:04 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: i think i should probably do the changes to focus first so that i can avoid conflicts between the changes
[09:02:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> k. i'm going to get !important fixed up now, fix any styles it breaks... that'll be good to get in too
[09:02:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: yep
[09:02:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> as for effect.. using @import is a performance hit
[09:02:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> {color}
[09:03:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> and having to link extra files may be annoying.. but that's about it
[09:03:36 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o i mean having font before reset, how much does that affect things?
[09:04:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: oh.. not sure
[09:04:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> haven't tested that out yet
[09:04:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> k
[09:04:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o i would imagine adding it before base might be fine, and not change anything
[09:04:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> or within base, but at the top
[09:05:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: that's what I was planning on doing.. i guess i'll make that change and then we can test it out
[10:27:15 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac is it https://connect.ocad.ca/fluid-work now ?
[10:27:31 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, yes, that's the new home for stand-up
[10:27:35 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> k
[10:27:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> fluid-everyone: ^
[13:28:22 CDT(-0500)] <clown> there's a new editor in town, "maquetta". See http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/IBM-Launches-Maqetta-HTML5-Tool-as-OpenSource-Answer-to-Flash-Silverlight-669762/
[13:28:56 CDT(-0500)] <clown> Alas, the maqetta site itself appears to be slash-dotted. (http://maqetta.com)
[14:10:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> clown: Bosmon and I were imaging the amazing authoring tools we'll build on top of Infusion
[14:10:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> with all of its declarativeness
[14:10:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Maqetta was a topic in our GPII meeting
[14:10:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it's a cool model
[14:29:25 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: what were you testing with when you looked at the focus styling stuff that i did
[14:29:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> which browser?
[14:31:17 CDT(-0500)] <clown> colinclark: have you seen Maqetta in operation (I still can't get to the site)?
[14:31:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It wasn't really working yesterday, no
[14:31:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o FF4
[14:31:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Although I'm fairly certain I saw Adam Peller do a demo of an early version of back at an Ajax Experience conference, clown
[14:31:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: so i think it's an FF4 issue for your second comment
[14:32:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> the entire theme thing is getting focus because of overflow: auto
[14:32:42 CDT(-0500)] <clown> neat, colinclark
[14:32:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> probably the same issue with the menu items
[14:32:54 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> although i thought i got that change in so maybe not
[14:33:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> clown: The biggest thing I'm a bit worried about is that apparently all its use of Ajax is synchronous
[14:33:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> As you well know, if you don't architect for asynchrony, it's pretty hard to shoehorn in later
[14:33:55 CDT(-0500)] <clown> bummer. do you know how much dojo/dijit it uses, if any?
[14:34:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think quite a bit, but I don't totally know
[14:34:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: also for your third comment, do you just mean that the demo, but not the markup in the component's html file has focus
[14:34:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> or do you mean parts of the uploader itself don't have focus
[14:35:10 CDT(-0500)] <clown> there's a slashdot article about it, and one of the commenters says it uses a ton of dojo, but then I don't trust slash dot commenters (smile)
[14:36:24 CDT(-0500)] <clown> for example, the same commenter had a generally dim view of jquery...
[14:42:57 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> sorry justin_o ... let me check
[14:44:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o for the demo, parts, for the component, nothing.
[14:49:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: i'm pretty sure the uploader has it's own focus styling already.. so i just added fl-focus to those extra buttons that switch between the types of uploader that are instantiated
[14:52:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: i've made some comments on the jira http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3880 and updated my branch, if you want to take another look
[14:58:17 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o i'll check it out
[14:59:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: thanks.. i'll be heading out in few minutes.. sorry i didn't get to those pull requests or the fss-reset.. i'll try to do that on monday
[15:00:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o cool, np
[15:04:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: thanks.. have a good weekend
[15:04:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> you too!
[15:21:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: I realized I never responded, but your Fluid Daleks search on Google is so wicked
[15:21:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and weirdly lucky
[15:21:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I just get boring results when I make the same query
[15:21:46 CDT(-0500)] <athena> yeah i was super amused
[15:22:00 CDT(-0500)] <athena> maybe google just knows i'm a giant nerd
[15:23:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[15:24:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I thought I was nerdy too
[15:24:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh well (sad)
[15:24:25 CDT(-0500)] <athena> maybe you've spent less time lately looking up dr. who episode lists though (tongue)
[15:24:32 CDT(-0500)] <athena> kris and i having been watching dr. who together
[15:24:59 CDT(-0500)] <athena> and we've had to consult wikipedia to netflix episodes in the right order, since we decided to start w/ the old ones instead of the modern series
[15:25:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[15:25:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Darcie and I have made it through all the new ones
[15:25:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and I've got the full Tom Baker era
[15:26:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> We are slowly making our way through it--they're so good
[15:26:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but I've never watched any of the Doctors prior to Baker
[15:26:47 CDT(-0500)] <athena> we started w/ the third dr, because that's the one kris remembers as a child
[15:26:56 CDT(-0500)] <athena> decided we'd go through that and baker, then skip to the new ones
[15:27:10 CDT(-0500)] <athena> we watched all of star trek TOS together a few years ago
[15:27:21 CDT(-0500)] <athena> these are the activities that make me laugh whenever she calls me a nerd
[15:27:33 CDT(-0500)] <athena> don't think she gets to play that card (smile)
[15:45:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[16:13:11 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> colinclark: Are you in charge here?
[16:13:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> No, but I have plenty of ideas, Bosmon!
[16:14:23 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> (smile)
[16:14:57 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> athena: The Davison era is still worth a look
[16:15:17 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Lots of classics there... the celery... cricket.. etc (tongue)
[16:15:45 CDT(-0500)] <athena> thanks Bosmon, i'll keep that in mind (smile)
[16:16:38 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It's only in the Colin Baker era things started to significantly decline
[16:26:42 CDT(-0500)] <athena> ah (smile)