fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-04-02

[12:36:33 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> hi guys
[15:09:20 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> hi folks
[15:09:42 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> hello
[15:09:50 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> wssup lahabana
[15:09:54 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar>
[15:09:57 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I'm ok thx and u?
[15:10:16 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i am good
[15:10:26 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> what are you working on ?
[15:10:47 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I was wondering if somebody was knowing anything about the videoplayer GSOC project
[15:10:56 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I've been thinking about it quite a lot
[15:11:05 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> colin clark introduced it to me
[15:11:16 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and I was writing like a draft of what I would see it
[15:11:27 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> *of how I would see it
[15:11:32 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yess
[15:11:37 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i am into it as well
[15:11:39 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar>
[15:11:51 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> how have u been shaping up with that porject
[15:11:54 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> project*
[15:12:06 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I
[15:12:17 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I've been looking a bit everywhere on the web
[15:12:29 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> found interesting docs especially the W3C
[15:12:35 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and firefox too
[15:12:45 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah cool
[15:12:49 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and lots of ideas just grew in my mind
[15:13:04 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and I know have got quite lots of ideas
[15:13:27 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> *now
[15:13:27 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha … aww… interesting...
[15:13:42 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> like adaptative captions
[15:13:43 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> do you plan on introducing a framework or something
[15:13:46 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> keyboard control
[15:14:00 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I would us Fluid
[15:14:09 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I've been looking through it too
[15:14:10 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah keyboard control
[15:14:13 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> nice
[15:14:18 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i was thinking on that too
[15:14:20 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and also interface
[15:14:28 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yess interface is important
[15:14:32 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> it always is
[15:14:35 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cause lots of disable people do use mouses
[15:14:37 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> maybe a simple one
[15:14:45 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> but are just not precise
[15:14:53 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yaa they need other inputs yaa
[15:14:54 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes
[15:15:09 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and you
[15:15:11 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ??
[15:16:00 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i was looking at microformats
[15:16:58 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> hmm actually not a bad idea
[15:17:13 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> Ho yes and I was wondering about something
[15:17:24 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> like subtitles files
[15:17:42 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> there are thousands of different types
[15:18:11 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> though it would be really important to be able to be able to load lots of them
[15:18:26 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cause the goal is always to have a widely used app
[15:18:35 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and begining to see it everybody
[15:18:42 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> everywhere
[15:19:18 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> (sorry for the bad english I'm quite tired, I had a long day)
[15:19:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> do you know who I could send the draft to?
[15:20:04 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm
[15:20:22 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i think u have to put it up on the gsoc site
[15:20:38 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> no that's the final one
[15:20:44 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> they say on the site
[15:20:46 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> and give a link to the mentor or the mailing list
[15:21:12 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> http://wiki.atutor.ca/display/atutorwiki/Google+Summer+of+Code+2011
[15:21:20 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> that we should submit a draft
[15:21:28 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and then they correct it
[15:21:30 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:21:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and say what they think
[15:21:43 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and after correcting it
[15:21:58 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> u do it through GSOC sites
[15:22:16 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> err aah okayy
[15:22:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> maybe to the email address they give...
[15:22:42 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> maybe u can send it to info@atutor and they will pass it to the fluid team
[15:23:00 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes maybe
[15:23:14 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> also have u found ur way through the mailing lists?
[15:23:19 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> there are like 6 of them
[15:23:29 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> :O six mailing list...
[15:23:34 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> err naah i havent
[15:23:37 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> quite hard to find what are the ones that may interest you
[15:23:55 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> there's like development/ users/ bug tracking/commit
[15:23:57 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and others
[15:24:15 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah maybe users is the one
[15:24:23 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> where we can put in ideas and proposals
[15:24:37 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> hmm actually yes maybe
[15:24:46 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> so where are u from Avipar?
[15:25:01 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> India
[15:25:06 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm how about you ?
[15:25:30 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> France
[15:25:35 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:25:50 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> u doing undergraduate there ?
[15:25:51 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> Hmm that's funny there is lots of Indian people this year at GSOC
[15:26:04 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yess it does interest a lot of Indians !!
[15:26:05 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> no I'm postgrad' now
[15:26:11 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah wow thats cool
[15:26:13 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> well it's quite complicated
[15:26:19 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> in france undergraduate is 2 years
[15:26:22 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and post 3
[15:26:41 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah here its 4 years undergraduate here !
[15:26:45 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> 3 for post
[15:26:49 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho ok
[15:27:08 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> wow
[15:27:17 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and how long is Phd?
[15:27:21 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> did you check out the fluid video component available
[15:27:26 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes
[15:27:33 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> had a look through
[15:27:39 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> 4 years for phd i thing…i doono…it also can take longer depending on stuff
[15:27:42 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:27:56 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it helped me to frame slightly my work
[15:28:05 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah nice..!
[15:28:21 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> so you're in what year of undergrad?
[15:28:31 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> last year
[15:28:37 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> Ho ok I see
[15:28:43 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar>
[15:28:55 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> soo yaa moving on to master next year most probably
[15:28:58 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> So how's uni in India (gotta admit I don't know much about india)
[15:29:12 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha well … for undergraduate its nice
[15:29:30 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> but masters would prefer outside
[15:29:34 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> US perhaps
[15:29:45 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho you've got unis in mind?
[15:29:55 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm not now
[15:30:03 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i do have time
[15:30:07 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> to ponder on that
[15:30:09 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> is there any work in the video project by other orgs like mozilla
[15:30:35 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yarp
[15:30:42 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> they've quite a big page
[15:30:44 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> exposing
[15:30:50 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> what is needed etc
[15:30:55 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> exposing :O
[15:30:56 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:30:57 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and a draft from W3C too
[15:31:06 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah W3c is nice
[15:31:10 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> do you want links
[15:31:16 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> they're perfect for that
[15:31:30 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/Video_Accessibility
[15:31:41 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah nice
[15:31:43 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> thanx
[15:31:50 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-track-element
[15:32:14 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> that would be helpful indeed
[15:32:41 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> well i think weekends are off
[15:32:59 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> this weekend?
[15:33:06 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yaa
[15:33:21 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho yes
[15:33:25 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it always is
[15:33:27 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> so most probably it would be monday u can interact with the mentor
[15:33:34 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I've got loads of project to finish for uni too
[15:33:37 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> +GSOC
[15:33:43 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah uni projects nice
[15:33:48 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> my days are pretty much extra full
[15:33:48 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> any interesting one u want to mention
[15:33:59 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha good nothing better than a good hard days work
[15:34:03 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> hmm one is computer graphics
[15:34:06 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> awww
[15:34:13 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> you got to tell me
[15:34:15 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and the other is processor realization
[15:34:20 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i did 2 projects in computer graphics
[15:34:29 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> and i thought of my masters in it
[15:34:45 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> idk how it goes
[15:34:52 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> what are you working on in cg ?
[15:34:59 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it was a graphic toolkit
[15:35:05 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> made from the pixel drawing
[15:35:08 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah nice !
[15:35:17 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> mmm getting a feel of it...
[15:35:23 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> so pixel oriented toolkit
[15:35:30 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and implements all the algorithm (brezenham / Hogman... )
[15:35:31 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> which can be used on the canvas
[15:35:48 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha i have read those aswell
[15:35:53 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and in the end we had to make a small toolglass application
[15:35:59 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> it was my last semester i did them
[15:36:09 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I did it last year too
[15:36:13 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> ohh okayyy
[15:36:20 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> bit annoying
[15:36:28 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I've went to another uni for my masters
[15:36:32 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> we had to make 2 games using Opengl Panda3d and python!
[15:36:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> so I redo stuffs
[15:36:39 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:36:51 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I love OpenGL
[15:36:55 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha hi5 me too
[15:37:05 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> well using those concepts for WebGl aswell
[15:37:11 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> really promissing
[15:37:19 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> using opengl with python IDE was good
[15:37:20 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> just really annoying the wrongly oriented axes
[15:37:22 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> learnt a lot
[15:37:25 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> but you get used to it
[15:37:25 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> hahaha
[15:37:32 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yaa u do
[15:37:37 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes WebGL looks awesome
[15:37:42 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> indeed !
[15:37:51 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> would love to do a project on that
[15:38:02 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> hmm I don't know
[15:38:18 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> since I've looked at Fluid I'm really interested by it
[15:38:25 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> some of their concepts are really good
[15:38:29 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yaa indeed
[15:38:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> like the that-ism
[15:38:37 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> seems great
[15:38:38 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> the not totallly MVC
[15:38:40 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> etc
[15:39:10 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> think they are thinking of how to make Js clear
[15:39:15 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and that's a necessity
[15:39:20 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yaa
[15:39:26 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> also emphasis on documenting stuff
[15:39:31 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cause Js is Awesome but maintainable Js apps is hard to do
[15:39:57 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yaa
[15:40:32 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> but i doo like the css framework
[15:40:48 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> and yaa some of the nice projects like fluid engage and more
[15:40:48 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ??
[15:40:50 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> of fluid?
[15:41:01 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yupp
[15:41:07 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho ok
[15:41:21 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I haven't been that much in the CSS framework yet
[15:41:30 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah mmm
[15:42:03 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> has it got like awesome unusual things?
[15:42:19 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm well a lot of classes and reset things to play with
[15:42:27 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[15:42:33 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> and other mobile fluid layouts
[15:42:43 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> but i also have to go thru it in detail
[15:42:49 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> love the fact that at least the Js part is made to be extended
[15:42:54 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar>
[15:43:01 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> u participated in last year's gsoc ?
[15:43:03 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> frameworks like mootools are not that easy to extend
[15:43:09 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yaa
[15:43:11 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and you quickly end up with messy code
[15:43:12 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i agreea
[15:43:19 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> totally
[15:43:58 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> so you've been into fluid for quite a while no?
[15:45:18 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm not exactl
[15:45:28 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ??
[15:45:28 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> but i was into it since past few months
[15:45:36 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[15:45:49 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> trying to get good fluid layouts for mobile and tablet devices
[15:46:02 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho ok
[15:46:25 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I see
[15:46:37 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yaa so was trying media queries and fluid designs with css
[15:46:49 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[15:47:51 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> you trying out for proposals in other orgs
[15:48:13 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> not really
[15:48:31 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:48:46 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> the thing is that I started looking for GSOC for not a really long time
[15:48:54 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> so I prefer to concentrate on one porject
[15:48:54 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:48:58 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and trying to do it well
[15:49:01 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> thats nice...
[15:49:11 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and you?
[15:49:14 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yaa smiliar thoughts here
[15:49:17 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> me too sticking with IDI
[15:49:25 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho ok
[15:49:49 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> you're doing other proposals for them?
[15:50:09 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm yaa Atutor
[15:50:15 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> Ok
[15:50:25 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> i had some ideas related to it
[15:50:28 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> So let's hope we both will be taken
[15:50:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> like?
[15:50:35 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha
[15:50:56 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm mobile app development tools and stuff
[15:51:09 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[15:51:16 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> atutor looks good too
[15:51:29 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yupp and the mentors are nice aswell
[15:51:38 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[15:51:40 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> really helpful and supportve
[15:52:01 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I just had a quick look through the different projects and what they were doing
[15:52:33 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah…
[15:52:37 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> what were your thoughts ?
[15:52:51 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> It looks really good
[15:53:07 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> just no projects really attracted me
[15:53:24 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> as much as that videoplayer one
[15:53:27 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah
[15:53:34 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and as I'm just doing one
[15:53:41 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> your expertise areas are web-technologies ?
[15:53:43 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I had to chose the one I prefered
[15:53:47 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes
[15:53:48 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah exactly
[15:54:03 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> my uni is general computer sciences and maths
[15:54:09 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> but I live for web
[15:54:23 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha nice
[15:54:26 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> sounds good !
[15:54:33 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> same with me !
[15:54:34 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar>
[15:54:42 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> and i am also into design
[15:54:46 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> so that helps
[15:54:50 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes true
[15:55:29 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> quite a lot is about appearance
[15:55:40 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> yaa sometimes
[15:55:50 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> but functionality is also important
[15:56:08 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes
[15:56:22 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> And easy access tend to be forgotten sometimes
[15:56:54 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yaa soo correct
[15:57:09 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I hate to go on really well looking websites and not being able to find what I'm looking for
[15:57:40 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> haha yaa that can be soo annoying
[15:58:02 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> err brb i will catch you soon… on IRC
[15:58:09 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> keep me updated
[15:58:10 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[15:58:18 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes no probs you too
[15:58:20 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho btw
[15:58:24 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> last question
[15:58:29 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yaa ?
[15:58:33 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> is Colin Clark the only mentor for it
[15:58:43 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm i doono… seems so
[15:58:46 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> or is there other people knowing about what he has in mind?
[15:59:07 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> umm donno… its upto him i guess
[15:59:13 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[15:59:31 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cause I'd like to catch him this weekend
[15:59:40 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> but I think he's away on weekends
[16:00:20 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> well doesn't matter I'll see tomorrow
[16:00:25 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> see you later then
[16:00:47 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> aah yaa
[16:00:49 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> see ya
[16:00:52 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> well I wish you success for GSOC
[16:00:54 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> bye
[16:01:00 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> see ya
[16:01:01 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> same to you
[16:01:06 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cheers
[16:01:11 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar>
[16:01:13 CDT(-0500)] <Avipar> bye
[16:01:47 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> bye