fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-02-01

[08:51:21 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: this may be of interest to you.. i just skimmed over it, but it's basically about jquery turning off their commenting in the api docs. http://blog.jquery.com/2011/01/30/api-documentation-changes/
[08:51:43 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, cool, thanks
[09:08:22 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o, anastasiac: I got both your responses to the Builder design email. Thanks!
[09:08:42 CST(-0600)] <jhung> I have a question for both of you...
[09:08:42 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> jhung: no problem
[09:08:48 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> okay
[09:09:23 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Is there a usecase where someone would want to download an Infusion component with its Infusion dependencies? (i.e. Inline Edit without the Framework).
[09:10:08 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> jhung: maybe it's subcomponents
[09:10:25 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o: like Inline Edit and Undo?
[09:10:34 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> so for example ui options uses the table of contents, but someone might want to use a different one
[09:10:38 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> jhung: that too yes
[09:11:10 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Hmmm...
[09:12:37 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o: thanks. I'm going to need to think about this some more. The complexity here is that adding another checkbox to the Infusion components list may create a confusing interaction for ATs.
[09:13:20 CST(-0600)] <jhung> you can imagine tabbing through and getting focus on the list item, and then getting focus on ignore afterwards, or embedded inside the cell of the item.
[09:14:18 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> jhung: yep.. i understand what you're saying... we had been toying with the idea originally too. I think Bosmon had suggested it. But I at least couldn't wrap my head around how not to make it even more confusing and etc.
[09:15:31 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o: Yeah. Thanks again for the email. I'll respond to both you and anastasiac on list.
[09:15:52 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> jhung: thanks... it's looking better.. can't wait till it's all ready
[09:15:58 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jhung, just catching up: I can think of a use case...
[09:16:22 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> suppose I've already tried infusion out with a custom build of the framework and one or two components
[09:16:26 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> so I already have the framework
[09:16:41 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I decide I'd like to use another component as well - it would be nice to just download it only
[09:17:05 CST(-0600)] <jhung> anastasiac: very true.
[09:18:08 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> not sure how common the use case is, jhung... I could just create an all-new build with all that I want, but...
[09:19:01 CST(-0600)] <jhung> anastasiac: yeah it's probably not a common use case, but it'll be good to keep in mind.
[09:19:26 CST(-0600)] <jhung> however, the current design does allow building packages with infusion components excluded.
[09:19:48 CST(-0600)] <jhung> I think it's the fact the Ignore is present in the 3rd party and not in the Infusion section is causing some confusion.
[09:28:13 CST(-0600)] <harriswong> mlam: I brought my mac in if you want to check that problem I was having.
[09:28:42 CST(-0600)] <mlam> Ok, after stand up?
[09:29:10 CST(-0600)] <harriswong> malm: sure.
[09:47:15 CST(-0600)] <jamon> ping fluid-everyone: ok, svn freeze in 15 minutes, ready?
[09:47:44 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jamon, fine with me
[10:00:07 CST(-0600)] <jamon> ok, freezing now
[10:45:42 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> justin_o: just faxed in the ICLA
[10:46:07 CST(-0600)] <harriswong> heidi_: ping
[10:46:14 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> harriswong hi
[10:46:26 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I have another patch that I'm wondering if you'd be interested in. It allows the user to configure a sorting callback for each pager columndef
[10:48:26 CST(-0600)] <harriswong> heidi_: I have attached a patch for FLUID-3878. I was wondering if you can take a quick look at the changes I have made for the Uploader css.
[10:48:26 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> EricDalquist: great to hear.. thanks for letting me know.. also i've marked http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4045 for the 1.3.1 release. I can't guarantee that we'll get to it, but at least it will be on our radar.
[10:48:35 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> EricDalquist: sure... sounds interesting
[10:48:40 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> harriswong - will do!
[10:49:04 CST(-0600)] <harriswong> heidi_: thanks!
[10:49:16 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> Sounds good ... I'll get an issue created later today with the enhancement
[10:49:40 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> EricDalquist: great thanks, we really appreciate all these contributions
[10:50:50 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> no problem, just another example of why I like using OSS libraries. I can get my changes back in for others to maintain
[10:52:01 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> then we all benefit
[11:45:45 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> anastasiac: do we have a short blurb on what infusion is
[11:45:53 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> what to use it for the description in github
[11:46:01 CST(-0600)] * anastasiac rummages
[11:47:01 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> this should be easier than this...
[11:49:03 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> justin_o, how short/long do you want it?
[11:49:24 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> Um.. I don't think there is a set size limit
[11:49:38 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> but it will just show up at the top of the repo, so probably not too long
[11:49:45 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> a couple sentences i guess
[11:50:06 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, give me a minute
[11:51:27 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> justin_o, is this too "marketing-speech"? Infusion combines JavaScript, CSS, HTML and user-centered design, rolling them all into a single package that sits on top of the popular jQuery toolkit. Infusion includes ready-to-use components as well as a framework to build your own.
[11:51:52 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ugh, I don't like that
[11:52:06 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> anastasiac: okay.. we can change it whenever we want so no pressure
[11:52:12 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, good
[11:52:25 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> really, we should have something better than we already do...
[11:53:00 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> yah... that's true
[11:53:18 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> justin_o: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4047
[12:23:45 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> hey mlam i have a quick uploader q
[12:24:52 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> in Uploader.html, there is a hidden span under the action col that has the text "Remove file from queue" - i don't think it ever gets shown. do you know why it's there?
[12:26:37 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> it looks like it's a backup if the icon isn't there maybe
[12:28:09 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> or if the button text option is set in the component?
[12:36:57 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> justin_o, for a blurb, how about the first paragraph of http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Infusion+Framework ?
[13:14:50 CST(-0600)] <jamon> ping fluid-everyone: anyone mind a jira restart to install the git plugin?
[13:15:16 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jamon, np for me
[13:15:18 CST(-0600)] <michelled> sounds good to me
[13:15:31 CST(-0600)] <jamon> i know justin_o won't mind, since he's not back yet
[13:29:36 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> jamon: i'm fine, did you want to look at the work-flow thing at the same time too
[13:29:38 CST(-0600)] <justin_o> for jira
[13:29:54 CST(-0600)] <jamon> yes what is that?
[13:40:21 CST(-0600)] <michelled> golam: it looks like selectablesTabindex was set to 0 when a bug relating to tabbing and shift tabbing in and out of the reorderer was fixed
[13:40:34 CST(-0600)] <michelled> golam: can you make sure that all still works properly with your fix?
[13:40:49 CST(-0600)] <golam> michelled: I will
[13:40:52 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thx
[13:41:02 CST(-0600)] <golam> michelled: np
[13:41:22 CST(-0600)] <mlam> heidi_: sorry. i just got back from basketball
[13:41:25 CST(-0600)] <mlam> i'll take a quick look for you
[13:41:37 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> no problemo
[13:44:58 CST(-0600)] <athena> anyone have thoughts about the timeline for fluid + jQuery 1.5?
[13:45:21 CST(-0600)] <mlam> heidi_: you're right
[13:45:28 CST(-0600)] <mlam> I have no idea why it's there to begin with
[13:45:51 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> mlam it looks like that's how you'd do it if you had the button text set vs icon
[13:46:05 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> but icon is set so that shouldn't be in the template
[13:46:11 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> or soemthing
[13:46:18 CST(-0600)] <mlam> Yah, the button is shipped by default, so the text shouldn't be there
[13:46:32 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> cool i'm gonna get it outta there
[13:46:46 CST(-0600)] <mlam> awesome.. it definitely doesn't belong there
[13:46:51 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> thanks!
[13:47:40 CST(-0600)] <mlam> np, thanks for catching it
[15:06:11 CST(-0600)] <golam> michelled: here is the patch http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/attachment/11630/FLUID-3946.v2.patch.
[15:07:07 CST(-0600)] <golam> michelled: I am testing to see if I can reproduce the issues with reorder
[15:13:57 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> mlam one more q - there is a disabled attrib on the upload button, not sure it gets used either. should it?
[15:14:34 CST(-0600)] <mlam> in the markup?
[15:15:41 CST(-0600)] <mlam> it should be used because that's the initial state of the upload button
[15:20:27 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> mlam yeah but once everything is upload, it doesn't go back to disabled... should it?
[15:20:58 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> mlam actually it's never disabled... the renderer changes that i think
[15:21:02 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> if that makes sense
[15:21:04 CST(-0600)] <mlam> Once the file queue is populated, the state of the upload button is changed to be enabled
[15:21:08 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> it just says disabled=""
[15:21:24 CST(-0600)] <mlam> Oh ok
[15:21:42 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> i have a feeling it's not used at all
[15:22:38 CST(-0600)] <mlam> I would then just remove it, and see if it has any negative effects to the state of the upload button.
[15:23:17 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> okay, it seems old school to use that anyway
[15:41:08 CST(-0600)] <mlam> heidi_: you're right
[15:41:21 CST(-0600)] <mlam> i removed the disabled attribute from the markup and it's not being used at all
[15:41:35 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> mlam is it used by the js at all?
[15:42:28 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thanks golam - I'll take a look at it
[15:42:29 CST(-0600)] <mlam> it doesn't appear to be. the initial state of the upload button is set to disabled from the js file on start up anyways. so the attribute in the markup can be canned.
[15:43:33 CST(-0600)] <golam> michelled: ok cool
[15:44:06 CST(-0600)] <heidi_> mlam cool thanks for checkin it out
[15:44:11 CST(-0600)] <mlam> np
[15:54:38 CST(-0600)] <michelled> golam: am I missing something or is the tab index test not actually creating a reorderer?
[15:58:14 CST(-0600)] <golam> michelled: let me check something