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fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-02-26

fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-02-26

Feb 26, 2010

[18:30:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Where, in our case, web-app-name is "engage"
[18:30:13 EST(-0500)] <jamon> yes, ok we're on the same page there
[18:30:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[18:30:34 EST(-0500)] <jamon> so, we're serving up tomcat via apache's mod_proxy_ajp module
[18:30:39 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[18:30:52 EST(-0500)] <jamon> which gets rid of port nastiness, and speaks a binary optimized http to tomcat
[18:31:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yes
[18:31:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so, translated, then
[18:31:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> kettle's world starts at, as you say, http://fluidengage.org/engage/
[18:32:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> all references in any of our pages, unless we have a bug, should be relative to /engage/
[18:32:31 EST(-0500)] <jamon> yes, which i think is presently the case for everything in the built .war
[18:32:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[18:32:44 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> as it should be
[18:34:53 EST(-0500)] <jamon> so, the issue is, apache proxies things just fine, but because it is serving up non-engage stuff outside fluidengage.org/engage, it thinks it should be looking at the documentroot for requests
[18:35:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ah, interesting
[18:35:33 EST(-0500)] <jamon> doesn't break though, because /engage is passed off to tomcat and kettle does it's job
[18:35:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> gotcha
[18:35:48 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me
[18:35:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[18:36:08 EST(-0500)] <jamon> (smile) i don't think i'll ever grok all of apache, nvm tomcat
[18:36:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[18:36:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i have to run for some pho hung with darcie
[18:36:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> looks like we're all cool for now
[18:36:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks so much, jamon and jessm
[18:36:42 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i didn't do anything
[18:36:46 EST(-0500)] <jamon> see you tomorrow
[18:37:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> see you
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[09:58:35 EST(-0500)] <jamon> jameswy: 0.3b2
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[10:06:45 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: I don't know how this one slipped through our fingers, but have we talked about ENGAGE-422?
[10:07:12 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jameswy: talked about?
[10:07:26 EST(-0500)] <jessm> it's on the 0.3 version list we need to prioritize
[10:07:52 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jameswy: some feedback i got from the MITers – they didn't understand the distinction between comment and add note – a good observation i thought – what do you think?
[10:07:56 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: gotcha. I just couldn't remember if we talked about it during our bug parade prioritization.
[10:08:43 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: I think it's a good observation too. Making the name of the comment feature consistent across the board would be simpler.
[10:08:49 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jameswy: justin_o and i are going to pick that back up today and then prioritize w/ top tens – i'll be pinging you to help with that
[10:09:05 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: alrighty
[10:09:28 EST(-0500)] <jessm> justin_o: how about it? can i pull you away from the code you're working on with Colin to do some planning?
[10:11:25 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> jessm: what time?
[10:11:34 EST(-0500)] <jessm> justin_o: asap
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[10:13:12 EST(-0500)] <jessm> boyan: jonathan and i put this together yesterday: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Decapod+0.3+Release
[10:13:27 EST(-0500)] <jessm> would love some feedback on it – or make edits if necessary
[10:13:48 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> jessm: sorry just a minute
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[10:15:32 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jessm, I took a quick look
[10:15:37 EST(-0500)] <boyan> feedback is coming later today
[10:15:58 EST(-0500)] <jessm> boyan: great, thanks
[10:16:15 EST(-0500)] <jessm> boyan: next step is to produce something like this today: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Engage+0.3+Development+Phases
[10:16:16 EST(-0500)] <jhung> @boyan, I am going to try making a timeline for the Decapod 0.3 release. I'll need you help editing.
[10:16:42 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jhung: boyan: we'll have to be sure to put in some significant integration time w/ the ocropus stuff
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[10:20:54 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung, jessm: should I try to make up some development phases or you will do it first, and then I can review, edit and update them
[10:21:43 EST(-0500)] <jessm> boyan: jhung: i'd love it if you two worked together on this – whatever that means
[10:21:52 EST(-0500)] <jessm> you can direct message each other and work it out here
[10:22:33 EST(-0500)] <boyan> ok, jhung, how would you like to approach it
[10:27:17 EST(-0500)] <jhung> boyan, right now I'm just adding the skeleton for the week by week plan.
[10:27:32 EST(-0500)] <jhung> Then you can go in and add the development tasks and estimates
[10:27:48 EST(-0500)] <jhung> I'll let you know when I'm done editing.
[10:29:33 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung, ok, great
[10:30:19 EST(-0500)] <jhung> Boyan, You can go in and add your estimates now. I'll follow by adding my tasks in there after you. http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Decapod+0.3+Release
[10:32:07 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung, ok I'll fill it right now
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[10:33:20 EST(-0500)] <jhung> boyan, I'll format the text into tables after we're done editing. Easier that way.
[10:34:30 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung, ok, so I'll add plain text only
[10:40:59 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: just trying to clean up shop – is this still relevant? http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-405
[10:42:40 EST(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: colin asked me to file that, best check with him
[10:43:18 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: ok
[10:55:50 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung: ok, I put some draft up
[10:56:12 EST(-0500)] <boyan> I've only covered March 1st - 16th (open coding)
[10:56:21 EST(-0500)] <jhung> ok
[10:57:06 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung: a couple of things will probably be leaved out for the QA phase, including:
[10:57:08 EST(-0500)] <boyan> Moving the spread out of the bounds of the thumbnail navigator will show an invalid drop marker. Releasing a spread in an invalid location will "snap" the spread back to its original location.
[10:57:21 EST(-0500)] <boyan> Upon reaching the start or end of the book, the selection should not wrap around.
[10:57:43 EST(-0500)] <boyan> I've brought the significant features up front
[10:58:11 EST(-0500)] <jhung> ok. The drop marker and wrapping is documented, so that's fine.
[11:01:34 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung: March 3rd is Bulgaria's National Holiday so I won't be working then (that's why first week's task sum up to 4d)
[11:13:40 EST(-0500)] <jhung> boyan, I've added some styling tasks to the plan. Let me know if there is anything you can see I missed.
[11:15:57 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung, there are some changes I made today
[11:16:02 EST(-0500)] <boyan> Right justify menu links in Header - 0.5d
[11:16:02 EST(-0500)] <boyan> Add Export button to footer - 0.1d
[11:16:10 EST(-0500)] <boyan> these are currently commited
[11:16:41 EST(-0500)] <boyan> and oops, the Help is missing
[11:19:25 EST(-0500)] <jhung> boyan, Ok. I've updated and see the changes. I'll remove those now from the list. I'll add Help documentation to the tasks.
[11:20:32 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung: ok, great
[11:22:30 EST(-0500)] <boyan> I won't be able to participate in daily today - my update is the markup change you just saw and exploring gphoto
[11:23:16 EST(-0500)] <jhung> thanks!
[11:23:17 EST(-0500)] <boyan> the latter means I now know what commands to use (theoretically), have to try them in practice and see the results
[11:24:18 EST(-0500)] <jhung> boyan, we're should discuss Thomas' response to the image dimension email some time.
[11:24:32 EST(-0500)] <jhung> May affect the work on Importing from file system.
[11:26:09 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung, I'll take a peek at my e-mail in the weekend and will reply to it
[11:26:22 EST(-0500)] <boyan> then we can discuss it on-list or in the channel on Monday
[11:26:45 EST(-0500)] <jhung> ok.
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[13:24:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yura: http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariWebContent/HandlingEvents/HandlingEvents.html
[14:09:01 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jameswy: ping
[14:09:10 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: pong
[14:09:15 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jameswy: it's time
[14:09:19 EST(-0500)] <jessm> shall we skype?
[14:09:28 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: Yep.
[14:11:21 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> colinclark, the bosmons: ENGAGE-219.... what do you think we should do with it
[14:11:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> gimme one sec
[14:12:00 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> colinclark: sure
[14:15:37 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> colinclark, Bosmon: when you are free.. what should we do with the jquery.couch.js plugin
[14:27:43 EST(-0500)] <yura> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=6823331
[14:34:27 EST(-0500)] <yura> colinclark: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Setting+Up+CouchDB+and+Lucene
[14:39:31 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> I've answered Justin privately on a few of these
[14:39:37 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> We should probably hve done this in the channel
[14:39:59 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> On jquery.couch.js:
[14:40:01 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> (12:13:00) AntranigBasman: Well
[14:40:02 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> (12:13:09) AntranigBasman: It is good to have it for reference, I think
[14:40:02 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> (12:13:18) AntranigBasman: and depending on the way we go, we may try to fix it up so it can be used
[14:40:02 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> (12:13:26) AntranigBasman: But we are getting on just fine without it at the moment
[14:47:12 EST(-0500)] <yura> hi athena, you were setting up kettle in eclipse yesterday, I was wondering if you remember what the issue was with the M2_REPO incorrect resource path to Rhino?
[14:47:39 EST(-0500)] <athena> yes - the eclipse .classpath file is slightly out of date
[14:47:39 EST(-0500)] <athena> it
[14:47:54 EST(-0500)] <athena> it refers to rc2 of the file, rather than rc3pre, or whatever maven include
[14:48:08 EST(-0500)] <yura> oh.. thanks alot
[14:48:14 EST(-0500)] <athena> it's a simple fix - just update the classpath from within eclipse, or run "mvn eclipse:eclipse" from the command line
[14:48:16 EST(-0500)] <athena> no problem (smile)
[14:49:22 EST(-0500)] <athena> i find the maven eclipse plugin to actually be pretty useful
[14:49:52 EST(-0500)] <yura> oh , so you were using it to pull the dependencies as well?
[14:50:38 EST(-0500)] <athena> hmmm, actually i think it does pull down the dependencies, come to think of it
[14:50:55 EST(-0500)] <athena> but eclipse should also be capable of downloading them, assuming the project is set up right
[14:51:00 EST(-0500)] <athena> and assuming you have m2eclipse installed
[14:51:13 EST(-0500)] <athena> which really is a nice plugin on the whole
[14:52:54 EST(-0500)] <yura> thanks i will try that
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[15:59:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> hey athena
[16:00:49 EST(-0500)] * athena waves
[16:01:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so, I think it's high time you become an official contributor to the Fluid community
[16:01:17 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> meaning, we give you access to the scratchpad
[16:01:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> where you can put your portlet
[16:01:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> because you rock
[16:01:57 EST(-0500)] <athena> aw, thank you, i'm honored (smile)
[16:02:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> getting access is easy
[16:02:08 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> basically, we give it to you
[16:02:17 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> justin can actually do it
[16:02:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> you just need a mentor
[16:02:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> which is sort of ironic, since you mentor us all the time
[16:02:36 EST(-0500)] <athena> lol
[16:02:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but i'll happily be your mentor, as i'm sure would justin_o
[16:02:46 EST(-0500)] <athena> i'd be honored!
[16:03:25 EST(-0500)] <athena> whoever has time/inclination is fine with me
[16:04:08 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[16:04:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> if it ever came up, you'd make a great committer, too (wink)
[16:05:20 EST(-0500)] <athena> aw, thanks
[16:06:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> There: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/List+of+Current+Fluid+Committers
[16:06:57 EST(-0500)] <athena> thanks!
[16:07:00 EST(-0500)] <athena> that's fantastic
[16:08:32 EST(-0500)] <yura> athena: would you know were on windows I can find the default maven location
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[16:09:10 EST(-0500)] <athena> unfortunately i'm generally a terrible person to ask windows questions of - i don't own a windows box anymore and haven't used it much in 7 years (smile)
[16:09:25 EST(-0500)] <yura> oh ok (smile)
[16:09:38 EST(-0500)] <athena> my guess is that the repository location would still be in userhome/.m2/repository
[16:09:41 EST(-0500)] <athena> but that's a guess (smile)
[16:10:00 EST(-0500)] <athena> i'm a mac user who occasionally uses linux
[16:10:12 EST(-0500)] <yura> thanks (smile) I tihnk i found something similar %USERPROFILE%\.maven{color}
[16:10:34 EST(-0500)] <athena> sounds plausible - it have a settings.xml and/or a repository folder?
[16:11:17 EST(-0500)] <yura> it's for maven repo
[16:11:33 EST(-0500)] <athena> by the way, if anyone who's coming to the jasig conference wants to talk maven, we can do that
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[16:16:45 EST(-0500)] <yura> colinclark: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Installing+and+Configuring+Fluid+Engage
[16:18:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: We should probably have that Maven talk at the conference
[16:18:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Where you set me straight