fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-04-15

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[17:00:00 EDT(-0400)] <yura2> justin_o: that's great news
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[17:12:51 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jessm, michelled_, anastasiac: Just noticed that one of the updates to the copyrights didn't get in because there was a conflict on the file. This means that a js file used by the mobile FSS demo is missing the copyright information
[17:13:07 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> any thoughts on if we should retag for this or just let it go for 1.2?
[17:13:25 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: it just doesn't say 2010?
[17:14:54 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jessm: it didn't have any copyright info
[17:14:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/tags/infusion-1.2/src/webapp/demos/fss/mobile/js/themer.js
[17:15:18 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: hrm
[17:15:24 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> this file is only used for the demo
[17:15:31 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: ah
[17:15:49 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: i think we'll be ok w/o the copyright info in this release – can you file a JIRA though for the next one?
[17:15:57 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jessm: sure
[17:16:01 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> thanks
[17:16:11 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: my sense is that since it's a demo and since it's embedded in other files that are copyrighted we're ok – what's your sense?
[17:17:09 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jessm: i guess so... i don't really know too much about copyright though... but the license does sit above it... so i guess we should be reasonably covered
[17:17:43 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: yeah, i'm not really sure either, but i'm thinking that the license should cover everything and the individual file copyright is the second-level of cover
[17:17:48 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled_: do you happen to know?
[17:18:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled_> ya, we are covered
[17:18:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled_> everything under gets the license above it
[17:22:24 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... so i filed the jira for it. http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3649 and made it a blocker for 1.3 so we make sure we come back to it
[17:22:50 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: thanks for catching it justin_o
[17:23:33 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure... sorry... that one was my fault though...
[17:38:41 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> happy releasing y'all – i'll see you laterz
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[08:29:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> morning justin_o! i just wanted to check in on the state of the 1.2 release
[08:30:43 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> athena: hello... good morning... it is progressing along... actually we cut a tag yesterday and tested the release package... we should be putting it up today...
[08:30:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> if you want to try it earlier you can grab a copy off of this jira http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3637
[08:30:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awesome! i noticed it looked like there was a tag (smile)
[08:31:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks!
[08:31:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'd love to try it out in uportal
[08:31:25 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> athena: that's great
[08:31:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> though actually the more pressing issue was that we're having a uportal community call today, and i wanted to mention the coming awesomeness
[08:32:08 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> (smile)
[08:32:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so, thanks! (smile)
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[08:33:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hopefully this is the point where we'll go add the android theme and such to the uportal 3.2 branch
[08:34:31 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> athena: that would be good ...
[08:34:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yep! we're looking forward to it
[08:35:06 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> we have kept the mobile fss in sneak peek status for now, but it should be much improved from what you had... i guess something similar to what you saw in san diego
[08:35:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i'm sure it'll be a great improvement (smile)
[08:35:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think in san diego i only updated the trunk
[08:35:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thi
[08:35:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> think we were waiting for a release to update the maintenance branch
[08:36:28 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> ah okay... when is that going to be released
[09:02:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no idea
[09:02:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> probably depends in part on eric's schedule
[09:02:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> not sure when he's getting back
[09:08:21 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> oh i see..
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[09:18:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> justin_o: am I here?
[09:18:38 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: you are
[09:18:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ah good (smile)
[09:19:00 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jhung: just to double check the 9:30 meeting is at 12 now?
[09:19:03 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> how's the release going- you need anything?
[09:19:27 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: just waiting on anastasia to arrive to ask her about getting the stuff up on the website
[09:19:38 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> i'm going to start moving issues in jira now
[09:19:52 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> justin_o: we have 2 deca meetings today. One this morning at 9:30a. Then another this after w James
[09:20:03 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> *after = afternoon.
[09:20:34 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jhung: is the 'after' one at 1:30?
[09:20:40 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jhung: thanks
[09:20:40 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> yeah
[09:21:28 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> I see the confusion. One is coming from Thomas' Decapod calendar. Different time zone.
[09:23:08 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jhung: actually now I have 3 deca meetings on my calendar - one at 9:30, one at 11 and one at 1:30
[09:23:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> any idea which of these are real?
[09:23:52 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> The one at 11a is the one Thomas scheduled into the DECAPOD calendar. Go into the calendar settings and change the timezone from EST to CEST.
[09:24:02 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> It's the same as the one at 9a EST
[09:24:29 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> There's only 1 decapod meeting today, and that's at 9:30a EST / 3:30 CEST.
[09:24:44 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> (Then there's one with James, Justin, and I at 1:30pm EST)
[09:25:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok, thanks for clearing that up!
[09:26:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jhung: I actually don't have the decapod calendar - do I need to be invited to it?
[09:26:58 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> Yeah. But it's not really necessary since we put everything into the Fluid calendar anyway.
[09:28:08 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> justin_o, michelled, jameswy I'm going to start rounding people up for the skype call now...
[09:28:29 EDT(-0400)] <jameswy> jhung: alrighty
[09:30:07 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jhung: just logged into skype
[09:31:20 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> sigh
[09:31:33 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> The joys of working in multiple time zones. lol
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[09:50:24 EDT(-0400)] <jameswy> jhung, justin_o, michelled: so is the meeting at 11am or 12pm Toronto?
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[09:52:59 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> jameswy: Should be 11am. Let me double check
[09:56:22 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> 1700 CEST / 11:00a EST.
[09:56:41 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jhung: thanks
[09:56:54 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jhung: how long is the meeting? half hour?
[09:59:14 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> justin_o: they last anywhere from 15 min to 1h. Really depends on the discussion.
[09:59:31 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> We generally budget 1 hour for these meetings though.
[09:59:53 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jhung: okay... thanks
[10:00:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> gonna be a small standup with all of us at the deca meeting (wink)
[10:00:38 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> lol yeah. (smile)
[10:00:58 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> Need to come up with an agenda. Any topics you guys want to add?
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[10:30:56 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jhung... just introductions i guess
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[12:48:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> hey yura_
[12:57:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> hey anastasiac
[12:57:33 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> colinclark: yura_ has just stepped out.. i think he's grabbing lunch
[12:57:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ok
[12:57:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark: how's the conference?
[12:58:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> it's good so far
[12:58:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Just working with jessm on her Engage presentation
[12:58:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: We chatted briefly last week about you giving yura_ a bit of hand with his Upgrade to Infusion 1.2 tutorial
[12:58:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> right
[12:58:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Is that something you might have half an hour or an hour to help with today?
[12:59:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This is what he's got so far:
[12:59:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Upgrading+to+Infusion+1.2
[12:59:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I did look at it, and I thought it looked ok. What did you have in mind?
[12:59:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Well, I think it needs a few things...
[12:59:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> A bit of copy editing and formatting will probably help
[13:00:12 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> k...
[13:00:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> The section that starts wit the sentence "Here is a full list of features in the new release:" is a bit misleading
[13:00:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> since it doesn't include a full list of features
[13:00:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And I don't think it needs to
[13:00:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ah, right
[13:00:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think it just needs to highlight the features that cause changes
[13:00:58 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I didn't look quite closely enough at it, sorry
[13:01:17 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'll spend some time on it today
[13:01:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> There might be a little bit more framing that could help users understand why there are changes
[13:01:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> "Framework" has a good example of this, but some of the other sections could be improved
[13:02:08 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I'll have a closer look
[13:02:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thanks for the heads-up, colinclark
[13:02:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think we can get rid of the "here" links as well, and use more useful and accessible linking strategies
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[14:01:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> justin_o: Bosmon had some free time in the session he's currently attending
[14:02:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So he triple-checked your 1.2 tag, ran some tests, built it, etc., and it looks good
[14:02:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So he's got your back on this release (smile)
[14:02:23 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> colinclark: that's good.. thanks (smile)
[14:03:04 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> colinclark: athena was asking about it this morning... so i'm glad that it's been thoroughly looked at (smile)
[14:03:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> actually i'm just starting up the up trunk w/ updated jquery, jquery ui, and fluid now
[14:03:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> we'll see what breaks (smile)
[14:03:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: (smile)
[14:04:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> one of the next items on my list is turning all the layout editing spagghetti into a fluid component
[14:04:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> cool
[14:04:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> that'll be awesome
[14:04:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, it will be!
[14:04:58 EDT(-0400)] * athena eats all the spagghetti
[14:05:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yum
[14:05:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yessss
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[14:18:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> justin_o, yura_: Is it on the radar for the release process to update all of the API wiki pages to reflect the new file paths?
[14:20:01 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> anastasiac: yes... but it hasn't been done yet
[14:20:38 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> wanted to get the release out first, but i guess because the files are uploaded now, we could do the update now... i've only done the mobile FSS pages links so far
[14:20:46 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> justin_o: Ok. I'm looking at the Upgrading wiki page now, but if you haven't gotten to the API pages by the time I'm done, I could have a look at those
[14:20:57 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
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[15:28:10 EDT(-0400)] * athena cheers
[15:28:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> uPortal seems to work just fine w/ fluid 1.2
[15:28:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena> now we just have to update the CSS too
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[15:30:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Awesome news!
[15:31:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> idneed
[15:32:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Didn't you already do the mobile CSS?
[15:32:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Or was that just in a branch?
[15:32:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it was in the trunk
[15:32:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Ah, cool
[15:33:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but i didn't touch the desktop CSS, which is the more complex part
[15:33:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> right
[15:33:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so i'll update the desktop CSS, and then update the mobile CSS to the tagged version
[15:33:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> What version of Infusion is uP currently using?
[15:33:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> good question (smile)
[15:33:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> mostly 1.1.2
[15:33:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> There aren't any "API" changes between desktop FSS in 1.1.2 and 1.2, luckily
[15:33:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> except in the case of the mobile stuff, where we're using that random early snapshot
[15:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awesome - that should make things a lot eaier
[15:34:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ah, yes
[15:34:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura_: Am I right about that?
[15:34:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Should be a "do nothing" update for desktop FSS in 1.2, right?
[15:34:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i like those kind of updates
[15:35:14 EDT(-0400)] <yura_> colinclark: I am pretty sure there none
[15:35:22 EDT(-0400)] <yura_> are none*
[15:35:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> great
[15:35:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: We try really hard
[15:35:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sorry about the file name changes in 1.2
[15:36:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hopefully it wasn't too much work, but we wanted to stay in harmony with jQuery's default file names
[15:36:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh, file name changes are totally no problem