fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-10-15

[11:12:56 CDT(-0500)] * Topic is 'This channel is logged – for details see: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/IRC+Channel' set by jessm on 07:30:00 CST(-0600)
[11:13:29 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> yay JASIGLogBot, we missed you
[11:13:56 CDT(-0500)] <athena> EricDalquist just fixed
[11:14:23 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> JASIGLogBot: are you bored?
[11:14:28 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> athena: thanks
[11:14:31 CDT(-0500)] <athena>
[11:22:46 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> jhung: *ping
[11:22:56 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> mlam: hey
[11:23:02 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> question
[11:23:25 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> according to the wireframe, the mouse tooltip is always dominating the keyboard tooltip
[11:24:00 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> however, once the mouse isn't hovering over the edit field, the keyboard tooltip comes back into play
[11:24:07 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> The mouse and keyboard "tooltip" are one and the same now. They should be positioned in exactly the same place.
[11:24:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> So regardless if you're hovering with mouse or focused with keyboard, it appears in the same spot.
[11:24:38 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: does that mean that it should always be visible
[11:25:01 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: yes.
[11:25:16 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: okay
[11:26:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> we need a better term for these "tips". They're not really tooltips anymore.
[11:27:17 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: not really... so what happens for richtext
[11:27:19 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> is it the same?
[11:29:10 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: yes it should be. Is there a concern?
[11:30:39 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> the richtext can lose focus, but remain in edit mode
[11:30:50 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> so it is a bit of a different interaction
[11:32:57 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: that complicates things. The "tip" is only relevant to the object in focus. So if focus is lost, my gut feeling is that it should disappear as well.
[11:33:33 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: that's good.. i think mlam has it on focus anyways
[11:33:35 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> so that should work
[11:34:24 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok cool.
[11:37:20 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> it's on focus now.
[11:39:21 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: mlam and I just checked out the richtext and realised that he message doesn't make sense there because there are explicit save and cancel buttons
[11:40:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Ah. Makes sense.
[12:09:41 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> anastasiac: I've made some updates to the progress api page... please let me know how it is http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Progress+API
[12:10:13 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> justin_o - thanks! I'll have a look
[12:10:34 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> thanks
[13:17:54 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jameswy: what was the name of the webapp wrapper we were looking into for Decapod?
[13:18:07 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ^justin_o
[13:19:03 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: i think it was prism or something like that
[13:20:54 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Thanks justin_o!
[13:56:35 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> anastasiac: in talking with Antranig I just noticed that some of our unit tests are making it to the swarm because the names of the html files were wrong... He made the good suggestion that I document the requirements... where do you think that should go
[13:56:59 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, good suggestion...
[13:57:06 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> let me think for a minute
[13:58:07 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> justin_o, why don't you create a child page of http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/docs/Developer+Documentation maybe called "Writing Tests" or some such thing
[13:58:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> we can put the file naming conventions there, along with basic info about how we write tests i.e. the framework, etc
[13:58:43 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> anastasiac: okay makes sense... thanks
[13:59:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> justin_o, I'll find good places elsewhere to put links to the new page
[14:02:14 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> clown: a few days ago at standup you mentioned a wiki page you were writing for gnome – is this related? http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/NewPreferencesGUI
[14:02:57 CDT(-0500)] <clown> jessm: it's related in that I cite it.
[14:03:05 CDT(-0500)] * clown looking up the url to my wiki page.
[14:03:27 CDT(-0500)] <clown> jessm: this is the page I was working on: http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/MagnificationFramework
[14:03:41 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> clown: thanks
[14:03:50 CDT(-0500)] <clown> jessm, wlcm
[15:10:37 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: is there a keyboard plugin jira?
[15:10:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> for the demo.
[15:14:05 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: i don't think so
[15:14:13 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> but let me double check
[15:14:50 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: not on bug parade at least
[15:19:12 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: okay. I can't seem to find a task in Jira for it. I'll make one and put it into this bug parade?
[15:21:05 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: okay... can you send me the jira number after you create it so that I can add it to the e-mail as well
[15:21:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> sure.
[15:23:48 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3799
[15:24:56 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jhung: thanks
[15:29:59 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: here's an initial wireframe. It's not complete. I found a CSS-only 5-star ranking widget that is keyboard accessible (it's just a styled list of links). http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/attachment/11229/Keyboard+a11y+2.png
[15:33:27 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: i
[15:33:53 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> 'll try to complete the wireframe this weekend so we can talk about it on Monday?
[15:34:43 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jhung, sounds good. looks pretty good! I'd like to know more about how focus ends up on that ranking widget, and how it's used
[15:35:09 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: Yes. Same here!
[15:35:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac>
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