fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-08-11

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[10:07:30 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: ping
[10:07:46 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: pong
[10:08:36 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: how well do you know your way around the michigan IT landscape?
[10:08:55 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> er, u michigan, have an issue with their mail servers
[10:09:25 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: interesting – i can point you to someone who can point you to the right place – is that helpful?
[10:09:48 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: that would work
[10:10:14 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: noah botimer can get you the answer – on twitter he's @botimer lemme find his email
[10:10:22 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> thanks jessm
[10:10:45 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> in the meantime, i'll pm you a list of people who are affected (3)
[10:11:04 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: botimer@umich.edu
[10:11:09 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> hahaha
[10:11:13 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> that's one of the affected addresses
[10:11:40 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: affected? howso?
[10:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: briefly, the umich servers check reverse dns
[10:12:44 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> if there isn't an entry, they just drop the connection instead of looking at other criteria like spf records or dkim signitures
[10:13:06 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> it is a stupid configuration, but there are a couple messages queued that cannot be sent to botimer, gsilver, and jleasia
[10:13:17 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> do those names mean anything to you?
[10:13:21 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> yep
[10:13:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> john leasia, gonzalo silver and noah botimer
[10:13:41 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i'm guessing all on fluid lists
[10:13:44 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> yep
[10:13:52 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> they pop up anytime a message goes out
[10:14:05 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> would it be ok to get them using a different email address for now jessm?
[10:14:21 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: hold on for a second
[10:16:38 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: back in a few
[10:16:41 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: the issue is on their end?
[10:21:09 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: sort of
[10:21:31 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: our ip range is new, so we don't have reverse dns entries setup
[10:21:45 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: on their end, they refuse to talk to an ip without reverse dns from what i can tell
[10:23:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: will we have reverse dns soon? and will it correct the problem automagically
[10:25:18 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: i don't think it will happen soon, it has to be done through ocad's IT, which escalate it to cogent
[10:26:07 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: so, i should try to get those folks to use a different email if possible?
[10:26:36 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: also, rdns it commits us to maintaining specific host names, which isn't something that i will do without a fair amount of thought put into it
[10:27:02 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: if possible yeah, that would be easiest and quickes to get them the messages
[10:27:22 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i'll email them
[10:28:08 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> thanks, i already emailed hostmaster@umich.edu, just not sure who to bug after that
[10:28:21 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> so i'll get in touch with botimer@umich next
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[11:22:15 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> hey jamon there's a #drupal-accessibility room. neat
[11:22:38 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> they've weekly meetings
[11:24:19 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: heya, awesome, likely everett runs the show there too
[11:24:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ya cool
[11:24:41 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> colinclark, Justin_o, i contacted everett about testing redmine, he's interested
[11:25:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> there's a "drupal for all" gsoc proj happening too.
[11:25:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jamon: Interested in taking for a test spin, you mean?
[11:25:50 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> colinclark: yeah, i mentioned it as an alternative to jira, going to send him credentials once i try the test migration again and see what he thinks about the two
[11:26:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Excellent
[11:26:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I know already what he things of JIRA
[11:26:20 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heh
[11:26:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i liked redmine when i used it
[11:26:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So heidi_, you're making an FSS-based theme for Drupal?
[11:26:42 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i also think redmine can be leveragged for some of what jutta talked about this morning
[11:26:50 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anyways, back to work
[11:27:07 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> colinclark: yep. when james has a design, will implement. getting to know drupal now
[11:27:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Exciting!
[11:27:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> How are you liking Drupal so far?
[11:27:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i'm soo stoked about all the a11y stuff they're up to
[11:27:29 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> drupal so desperately needs fluid
[11:27:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I imagine it starts with a steep learning curve
[11:27:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> it took me awhile to figure out how to make a page ha haa
[11:27:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> and then awhile to figure out how to link to it
[11:27:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> but yeah, i think it'll be cool
[11:28:06 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: grab imce and use it for now?
[11:28:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon: agreed
[11:28:12 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> or ckedit i think is another
[11:28:14 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> what's imce?
[11:28:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm thinking jamon means TinyMCE
[11:28:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> oh
[11:28:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> text editors
[11:28:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ?
[11:28:41 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> imce is it's own thing in drupal i think
[11:28:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah no... i meant the admin stuff
[11:28:44 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> one sec
[11:28:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah, sorry
[11:29:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Overall, most accessibility folks I've heard are fairly enthusiastic about the new CKEditor these days
[11:29:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah drupal did this thing, where dev's "pledge" to make their modules as accessible as possible
[11:29:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> how rad is that
[11:29:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But I think it's a pretty terrible UI overall--so complex
[11:29:20 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> #D7AX - Drupal 7 Accessibility eXperience
[11:29:34 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> http://drupal.org/project/ckeditor
[11:30:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Did you guys see Everett's recent tweet?
[11:30:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "Going to take a look at modularizing Fluid Infusion http://fluidproject.org/products/infusion/ as new fields for #Drupal 7."
[11:30:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> what's his twitter ??
[11:30:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> bammm
[11:30:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ezufelt
[11:30:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> He's a pretty interesting Tweeter
[11:30:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Or whatever you call one who tweets
[11:30:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think he's got quite a few followers
[11:30:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I keep telling myself I need to start tweeting again
[11:31:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Instead, I just read Everett
[11:31:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah tweet colin!
[11:32:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> but yeah, i think fluid and drupal should hang out. they seem really keen http://drupal.org/node/394094
[11:32:59 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> new irc channel or is that too early?
[11:33:10 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> #drupal-fluid?
[11:33:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> hang in drupal-accessibility maybe
[11:33:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[11:33:24 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> good call
[11:34:09 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> their meetings are on tuesdays
[11:34:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[11:34:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> This is exciting
[11:35:27 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> colinclark: also, getting fluid into plone would be a huge leg up into enterprise systems
[11:35:50 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i have no idea how it works, but would love to try working on it if you or someone else could coach me
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[12:05:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Just a heads up, I added infusion-users to Nabble
[12:05:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I find that while our own archives are perfectly fine, we get better Google search results when we archive in Nabble
[12:06:07 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: that's good thanks...
[12:06:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes... i usually find them on nabble when i use Google
[12:07:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Here it is: http://infusion-users.961009.n3.nabble.com/
[12:15:07 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Justin_o: gmane is good too, mostly for foss lists
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[12:37:30 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: thanks... good to know
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[14:26:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon , apparently wordpress allows microsites
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[16:03:05 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Justin_o: still here?
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