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fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-10-19

fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-10-19

Oct 19, 2009

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[09:47:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: it looks like our various nightlybuilds haven't triggered since Oct 17
[09:50:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: Ack!!
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[09:50:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'll poke around in Continuum this morning, while everyone else is worrying about the Engage release
[09:51:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> wait...
[09:51:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: Oct 17 was just last Saturday
[09:51:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> builds only happen if the source in SVN has changed
[09:51:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> since the code is figuratively frozen, it's not too surprising that there hasn't been a build (smile)
[09:53:02 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: ah okay... so it's normal
[09:53:05 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks
[09:53:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> well, I'll double-check, but I think so
[09:54:07 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks... i'm trying to track down why this is working tinyurl.com/engagemobile, when it seems to depend on stuff that was moved
[09:55:07 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, if the deployes war file name changed, it's possible that the old war file is still there - do you know what the new URL is supposed to be?
[09:57:50 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: here is an example of a css file that it includes... this is the new full path in svn https://source.fluidproject.org/svn/incubator/engage/client/trunk/screenNavigator/css/ScreenNavigator.css
[10:03:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: is the problem simply that the HTML file hasn't been updated to reference the Incubator version of the file? Or that the version that is being referenced shouldn't exist?
[10:04:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> the current path that is being referenced should no longer exist
[10:04:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, thanks
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[10:19:33 EDT(-0400)] <joan> hi.
[10:20:00 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled?
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[10:29:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> hi joan
[10:29:33 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> how's the component building going?
[10:29:54 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> welcome boyan! Nice to see you here (smile)
[10:30:49 EDT(-0400)] <boyan> hi all
[10:30:53 EDT(-0400)] <boyan> nice to see you too
[10:31:08 EDT(-0400)] <boyan> (smile)
[10:31:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> hi, boyan, welcome to the channel!
[10:31:30 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> boyan: hello
[10:33:39 EDT(-0400)] <joan> hi michelled: i'm trying to upload code in scratchpad but i can't. you gave me a password to upload in scratchpad and incubator. My user is jgarciavila?.
[10:33:55 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> your user is your email address
[10:34:08 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled: ok
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[10:34:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> let me know if it works
[10:35:20 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled: error (no jira created).
[10:35:53 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> joan: when you commit to the repository you must begin your commit message with the jira number
[10:36:11 EDT(-0400)] <joan> for scratchpad too?
[10:37:17 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> joan: this may help a bit
[10:37:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Coding+and+Commit+Standards
[10:37:30 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> it's our guide on commit practices
[10:37:58 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> and yes, you should be committing against a jira if possible in all repositories
[10:38:19 EDT(-0400)] <joan> ok.
[10:38:40 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and also included a message about what you've done in your commit log
[10:38:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it helps a lot with community communcation (smile)
[10:39:54 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> joan: are you on the commits mailing list? http://fluidproject.org/getinvolved/mailing-lists/
[10:40:42 EDT(-0400)] <joan> Yes. In which JIRA project must I create JIRA (bug-parade comment development)?
[10:40:56 EDT(-0400)] <joan> Yes. In which JIRA project must I create JIRA (bug-parade component development)?
[10:41:11 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> joan: good question, i think the FLUID one is okay for that
[10:41:17 EDT(-0400)] <joan> ok
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[10:47:45 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jameswy: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-132 seems to be a blocker
[10:47:50 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> what is your take on it.
[10:47:54 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> for the 0.1 release
[10:49:36 EDT(-0400)] <jameswy> Justin_o: It's definitely an irritating bug, and absolutely needs to be fixed at some point--sooner the better. Blocker for 0.1 is cool with me.
[10:49:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks...
[10:49:51 EDT(-0400)] <jameswy> (if you guys have the time for it)
[10:50:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I think we should be able to get it fixed today....
[10:51:00 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jameswy, michelled, fj4000, and others: I'm going to add ENGAGE-132 to the bug parade
[10:52:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sounds good Justin_o
[10:52:20 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: thanks
[11:05:01 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> jessm: got any time for a quick chat today? Just want to run through the website issues I emailed about last week and see if there is anything you want sorted out right away.
[11:05:26 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> laurel: sure, how about after standup?
[11:05:49 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> jessm: not so good...maybe just before?
[11:05:59 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> laurel: can't
[11:05:59 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> unless it ends in 15 minutes
[11:06:13 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> laurel: ping me in the early afternoon when you have time then
[11:07:11 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> if standup ends by 11:50 then that would work too...just have to be out by 11:55 or so.
[11:08:19 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> laurel: ping me in the early afternoon when you have time
[11:09:56 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> jessm: will do
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[11:15:55 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jameswy, anastasiac, laurel, michelled: http://myttc.ca/travel/from/st_george/to/york_university
[11:16:12 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> is there a space on the wiki i can add this link
[11:17:02 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: yeah! that's really helpful
[11:17:06 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> let me find a link
[11:17:37 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Open+Source+Accessibility#OpenSourceAccessibility-GettingHere
[11:17:43 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: ^
[11:18:20 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: thanks
[11:21:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o and jessm: thanks!
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[12:02:52 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled: it works. I can commit to scratchpod. Thanks.
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[12:11:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> joan: great!
[12:11:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm going to check it out (smile)
[12:13:22 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled: it's a very early code. Not the component itself.
[12:14:05 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> joan: I like that you followed the infusion conventions in your code
[12:14:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> privacy etc - nice to see (smile)
[12:17:28 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelle: as soon as i have processed the first data block (jira xml) and rendered on the page then i'll move code from html to js (files).
[12:17:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> cool
[12:18:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> let me know if you need help with jqUnit testing when you get to it.
[12:18:12 EDT(-0400)] <joan> latter i'll fix the presentation and latter i pass the params to the components (jira comments "Bug parade ...")
[12:18:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sounds like a good plan
[12:19:25 EDT(-0400)] <joan> last week i got into trouble with aptana (doesn't like javascript references outside the project) so curious!
[12:20:19 EDT(-0400)] <joan> so i decided to place infusion inside the project as a externals reference.
[12:21:07 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok. strange about aptana - I think I must have some setting that ignores that issue.
[12:25:17 EDT(-0400)] <joan> yeah. i felt a little bit silly. because the html page (javascript include) worked perfect outside (direct from the browser). but inside aptana i couldn't load them. (infusion js)
[12:25:28 EDT(-0400)] <joan> so curious!
[12:25:38 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes
[12:26:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I guess I generally check in the browser instead of in aptana. just habit I think
[12:26:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o: I need to reopen ENGAGE-116
[12:26:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it
[12:26:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it's the nightly build JIRA
[12:27:28 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled okay.... still not working ?
[12:27:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> the problem is the externals for infusion - I think you must have seen on list that the change I made on Friday to the fluid-all externals was not a good change.
[12:27:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm going to create a new externals project for engage all
[12:28:20 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> this is a stop gap measure. I think we'll come up with something better for 0.3 such as pulling infusion from a cdn
[12:28:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: i see, that seems to make sense
[12:45:41 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o: I'm done now. So we can test off the engage nightly because it now uses Infusion 1.1.2
[12:46:00 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled, that's great to hear... thanks
[13:37:34 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> jessm: available when you are - page created in preparation of chatting with you http://wiki.fluidproject.org/x/eIqz
[13:42:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is "mobility" starting to legitimately catch on as a phrase referring to support for cell phones?
[13:42:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> because every time i hear it i picture software getting up and walking away
[13:42:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but i'm starting to worry that i'm just not keeping up with current buzzwords
[13:48:01 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled: When to I mark an item as *REVIEW* in bug parade mail. Could you explain me the business rules that applies?
[13:48:12 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled: sorry: When do I mark an item as *REVIEW* in bug parade mail?. Could you explain me the business rules that applies?
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[14:20:07 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> joan: sorry - I was in a meeting
[14:20:48 EDT(-0400)] <joan> michelled: When do I mark an item as *REVIEW* in bug parade mail?. Could you explain me the business rules that applies?
[14:20:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> when a bug parade message is marked as 'resolved' is is in review
[14:21:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> when a bug parade message is marked as 'closed' it is closed (smile)
[14:21:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> by 'message' I meant 'issue'
[14:21:50 EDT(-0400)] <joan> so if I find and item ... <status id="5" iconUrl="http://issues.fluidproject.org/images/icons/status_resolved.gif">Resolved</status>
[14:22:12 EDT(-0400)] <joan> this has to be shown as *REVIEW* ?
[14:23:33 EDT(-0400)] <joan> Is this sentence true?: closed bugs don't appear in the <bug parade> mail.
[14:23:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> no, the closed bugs still appear
[14:24:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> with a CLOSED near it
[14:24:11 EDT(-0400)] <joan> i understand.
[14:24:35 EDT(-0400)] <joan> If no marks => work to we done ?
[14:24:42 EDT(-0400)] <joan> If no marks => work to be done ?
[14:25:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://fluidproject.org/pipermail/fluid-work/2009-October/005332.html
[14:25:12 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> there's an example with closed bugs
[14:26:15 EDT(-0400)] <joan> thanks.
[14:26:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes, if the bug is Open, In Progress and Reopened then there is work to be done
[14:26:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> if the bug is resolved it's ready for review
[14:26:47 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and if the bug is closed it's complete
[14:28:24 EDT(-0400)] <joan> ok
[14:33:48 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jamon, you here?
[14:34:08 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> michelled: present
[14:34:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yura1 has done some experimenting with using a trunk version of rhino with engage
[14:34:38 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it's much faster
[14:34:48 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm talking 1 second versus 15 seconds
[14:34:53 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> make sense that it would be
[14:34:53 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> crazy
[14:35:08 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> i'm setting up a virtual machine in xen for people to use as i write this
[14:35:24 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> e.g. vnc to a linux dev environment that is all setup for just such work
[14:35:38 EDT(-0400)] <yura1> michelled: plus it is one less include in kettle
[14:35:52 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> "ALWAYS FACE THE CATTS"
[14:36:04 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> (smile)
[14:36:10 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> No, no, "NEVER FACE THE CATTS"
[14:36:15 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> michelled: is the thinking to try trunk with the running version and leave it that way permanently?
[14:36:19 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so, I'm wondering about the nightly build
[14:36:20 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> Yes, a 15x speedup is on the order of what I would expect
[14:36:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> The bottleneck will now be moved to elsewhere in our code
[14:37:11 EDT(-0400)] <yura1> Bosmon2: (smile))
[14:37:19 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yura1: what did you need to change to point to the trunk version of rhino?
[14:37:35 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> We will need to assign this build a version number and make a POM for it
[14:37:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> And upload it to "our" Maven repo, kindly provided by EricDalquist
[14:38:01 EDT(-0400)] <yura1> well in eclipse i just added the the jar in the build path
[14:38:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Bosmon2: so we could "ship" it then
[14:38:21 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> Yes
[14:38:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> Actually this is just what I did for our existing Rhino anyway
[14:38:41 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> Since noone else seems to bother to upload it to Maven these days
[14:39:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do you have your project set up such that you can just run "mvn deploy"?
[14:39:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that does tend to make it easier to update
[14:40:16 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Bosmon2: I'm somewhat confused on how we package up rhino with our release
[14:40:32 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> let me know what i need to do then if there's something i can poke at on titan
[14:43:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> Hi there
[14:43:49 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> athena: I don't believe there is really any maven build at all for Rhino
[14:44:05 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah
[14:44:09 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> All we will do is edit the POM we already have in a text editor, rename the JAR file, and upload them (tongue)
[14:44:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so this is a library, not your own project?
[14:44:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> It is Rhino
[14:44:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> gotcha (smile)
[14:44:53 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yura1: is this something you can do?
[14:46:56 EDT(-0400)] <yura1> michelled: I have the built jar already, I just need to figure out how to edit the POM and rename/upload the jar
[14:47:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> cool. anastasiac has the maven repo info I'll get it to you
[14:47:52 EDT(-0400)] <yura1> thank you
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[16:13:38 EDT(-0400)] <joan> byr
[16:13:40 EDT(-0400)] <joan> bye
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[22:20:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Lee_bee: you are a night owl (smile)
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