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fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-04-06

fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-04-06

Apr 06, 2009

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[10:46:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark, elicochran: do you know when the uploader fixes will be ready for testing?
[10:47:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I've commented on of the issues with a +1 for elicochran's patch.
[10:47:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Let me check which one it was.
[10:47:21 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: morning, I just got in. With your approval I can land that one.
[10:47:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This one: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2459
[10:47:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It's good to go.
[10:48:09 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: I haven't looked at the other one yet. colinclark, have you?
[10:48:15 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: I think we're going to try to get all of the patches in at the same time and then do testing for those issues... just trying to get everything coordinated
[10:48:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> elicochran: what's the status of the Progress API documentation - is that complete?
[10:48:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: I haven't, no.
[10:48:39 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark, Justin_o: OK, I'll start on it this morning.
[10:48:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> There's a couple of "blockers" in the list that I think we aren't planning to fix for 1.0...
[10:48:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&amp;requestId=10107
[10:49:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I assume we're not going to fix http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2495
[10:49:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> and http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2467
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[10:49:30 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> anastasiac: The Progress API page is done. I should probably cruise through it one more time, as I wrote a lot of it under the influence of little sleep
[10:49:40 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> anastasiac: I still plan to write a Tutorial
[10:49:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> elicochran, great - thanks! I can have a quick look to proof-read
[10:49:50 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: those ones are fix for 1.1
[10:49:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: right, ok
[10:50:04 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> anastasiac: that would be greast
[10:50:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This is a list of all conceivable blockers, not just current ones.
[10:50:09 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> and if you have time for docs, updating the Uploader API page is higher priority than a Progress tutorial
[10:50:28 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: oh okay
[10:50:33 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> anastasiac: I planned on doing a pass through that as well
[10:50:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: No, sorry, that was sort of a question.
[10:50:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I think luckily we haven't changed the public API for Uploader between 0.8 and 1.0.
[10:50:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> elicochran, thanks
[10:51:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So it should just be a chance to cycle back and improve what we've got.
[10:51:12 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> there is certainly updating to do: paths,e tc
[10:51:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: here is the set I have for blockers to this release
[10:51:15 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2463
[10:51:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Great thanks. I'll watch this one.
[10:51:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> class names
[10:51:39 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: I looked at the docs briefly last week and there are just a few selector/style tweaks and version numbers
[10:51:50 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> anastasiac: ^ too
[10:51:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Oh yes. Of course! Thanks.
[10:52:12 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yep - that's the main thing, for component with no actual api changes
[10:52:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the name of the jquery file itself has also changed, elicochran
[10:52:57 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> anastasiac: yep
[10:54:20 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark, Justin_o: I'm starting in on FLUID-2464. I'll let you know how it goes.
[10:57:17 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> elicochran: regarding docs, the Fluid-all.js file is now renamed InfusionAll.js, and it's at the top level now
[10:57:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: thanks
[10:57:35 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> anastasiac: thanks, I would have missed that one
[10:58:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> elicochran, fj4000, colinclark, anastasiac, Justin_o: I'm going to give an informal code tour of the build scripts after standup. I hope you can make it
[10:58:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll be there.
[10:58:44 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> cool
[10:58:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> everyone's welcome, of course
[10:58:50 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> michelled: great!
[11:21:23 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: do you have a minute to help me mull over this IE uploading bug, the behavior is very interesting
[11:21:28 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> ?
[11:25:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: Yep, one sec.
[11:36:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I created FLUID-2525 for verifying the dependencies of components. I've assigned the sub tasks to the component contacts.
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[12:18:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is it possible to use the reorderer without a top navigation bar?
[12:21:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> hi, athena
[12:21:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hey anastasiac
[12:21:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm not sure what your question means... do you mean without a grab handle, like the title bar on a portlet?
[12:21:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh, oops
[12:22:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that because apparently i'm really spacey today
[12:22:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i meant the pager
[12:22:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sorry!
[12:22:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ah - that makes much more sense
[12:22:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[12:22:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yes.
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[12:22:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the pager requires one "pager bar" that is called the 'top' pager bar by default
[12:22:46 EDT(-0400)] * athena escaped completely from work over the weekend and is having a hard time getting back into the swing of things
[12:22:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah
[12:22:55 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> visually, you could style it to be positioned anywhere
[12:23:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the secondary pager bar, typically on the bottom, is optional
[12:23:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so i could just put it at the bottom and it wouldn't really know the difference
[12:23:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> exactly
[12:23:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[12:23:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that works
[12:23:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks!
[12:23:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> no problem!
[12:23:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> when are you guys planning to cut the 1.0 release?
[12:24:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Wednesday is the plan...
[12:24:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awesome
[12:24:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i saw something go by about the new build scripts
[12:24:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> will it be possible to tell it to leave out certain dependencies?
[12:25:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> athena, yes, we're working on build scripts that allow customized packages
[12:25:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled can tell you more
[12:26:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i saw the email
[12:26:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's quite excellent, actually
[12:26:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awesome
[12:26:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled's been doing great work on this!
[12:26:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i was hoping it'd let us do something like build all the fluid stuff and leave out jquery ui, but i wasn't sure if that was the intent or not
[12:26:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> you guys always do
[12:26:58 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ya, athena, it can
[12:27:03 EDT(-0400)] * athena cheers
[12:27:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that'll be wonderful!
[12:27:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> less chances for athena to screw things up via manual update processes
[12:27:28 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I hope so. Actually, your needs may be the perfect test
[12:27:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I can build what you need and we can see if it actually work
[12:27:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sounds good to me
[12:27:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'll try and see if i can carve out some time to try it
[12:28:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks - I'm not quite there yet but I'll ping you when I am
[12:28:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sounds great, thanks!
[12:29:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: We built that exclusions stuff in the build scripts just for you
[12:29:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awwww
[12:29:59 EDT(-0400)] * athena feels honored
[12:30:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks
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[14:15:42 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> fj4000: ping
[14:16:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> heya
[14:16:42 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> fj4000: have a few moments to look at some wiki page magic and talk about what we could maybe do? skype?
[14:16:54 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> for sure
[14:17:06 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i will hop on skype now
[14:33:01 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> anastasiac: anything i could be helpful with for documentation?
[14:33:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> jessm, thanks for the offer!
[14:33:49 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the work right now is mostly technical
[14:34:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> checking the docs for correctness with respect to the api, file names, class names, file hierarchies
[14:34:12 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> ok, well, i'm on high alert for anything you need
[14:34:27 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: and if there are any tests – i can get back on that now...
[14:34:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> helping Justin_o with testing will free others for docs
[14:35:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: thanks... i think we are okay for now for the mac stuff... we will need to do a bunch of uploader testing once colinclark and elicochran finish fixing up those issues... will you be able to help with that later?
[14:35:52 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> totally – i'll be all over it – uploader or bust
[14:36:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o>
[14:46:16 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Ok, we've got fixes for both Uploader issues.
[14:46:17 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: we're almost ready
[14:46:34 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark, elicochran: that's great to hear
[14:46:57 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: OK colinclark is ready... I'm waiting to review his patch
[14:47:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> that's perfect.. i'm going to double our list to see what is left to fix... there are a couple of patches on a couple of other issues that need to be reviewed as well.. i believe they are both related to paths
[14:48:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ok
[14:48:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: This one is good to go http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2459
[14:48:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I have tested it and reviewed it, both locally and on the server version.
[14:49:01 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: I'm going to run and get a burrito before the rush. I'll be right back.
[14:49:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: k
[14:49:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I'm just cooking up a patch for this one: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2464
[14:49:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: thanks
[14:51:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: the FLUID-2464 patch only affects the Image Gallery.
[14:51:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It includes modifications to the clean-build-run.sh script, cleanup in the gallery JavaScript, and a change in the path that we give to SWFUpload to POST the files to.
[14:51:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Image Gallery isn't subject to code freeze (yet), but I'll put up a patch for people to look at just in case.
[14:52:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Pretty late in the game to screw something up.
[14:52:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: thanks
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[14:54:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Ok, patch is here: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2464
[14:55:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks... so once elicochran has code reviewed the uploader stuff will be all ready...
[14:56:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> we just need to worry about FCK editor now... and I asked fj4000 to look the styling problems in the unit tests
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[15:18:48 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark and Justin_o: Colin's patch for FLUID-2464 looks good and tests well
[15:18:55 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> who wants to commit it?
[15:19:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll go ahead and commit
[15:19:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: can I commit?
[15:19:47 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> great
[15:19:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: thanks... whenever you guys are ready... feel free... then we can rebuild and begin uploader testing
[15:20:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Requesting permission to commit during code freeze.
[15:20:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark>
[15:20:15 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ye
[15:20:16 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> s
[15:20:17 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: make sure that you get Justin's patch for ...
[15:20:27 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> FLUID-2480
[15:20:41 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> oh, except I haven't reviewed it
[15:20:44 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> did you?
[15:20:51 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: ^
[15:20:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: Nein. Go ahead and review.
[15:21:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Ok, so how many patches do we have to commit?
[15:21:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I've got FLUID-2464.
[15:21:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Are there others?
[15:21:53 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: OK I'll do a quick review on 2480
[15:22:33 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran, colinclark: fj4000 has also put up a patch for 2476 if either of you have time to review it
[15:22:41 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: your patch has a problem
[15:22:48 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> easy to work around
[15:22:54 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> good thing there are reviews
[15:23:23 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> the patch is relative to your /Users/justin/Documents/Aptana Studio/ directory
[15:23:33 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> it really should be relative to src
[15:23:51 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> not a big deal because anyone who knows how to apply patches can work around it
[15:25:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: do you use aptana or the command line or something else to make your patches?
[15:25:19 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: I use Aptana
[15:25:48 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> how do you make the paths correct... i just did a right click and create patch from the context sensitive menu
[15:25:48 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> I first select the src (or something else inside the infusion source tree)
[15:26:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: You should make some screenshots for us.
[15:26:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I use the command line mostly, but have never gotten Aptana to generate relative patches.
[15:27:13 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> OK, I'll do that
[15:27:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> cool
[15:27:20 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks elicochran
[15:32:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o, elicochran: Just a heads up that it looks like our Image Gallery daily build is not refreshing with the latest infusion code.
[15:32:20 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: your patch for 2480 works, I will comment on the JIRA and you may commit (with you're own approval of course)
[15:33:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So I'm going to fix that. Otherwise, we'll likely find that our next round of QA testing for Uploader will be problematic.
[15:33:13 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: thanks
[15:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: thanks!
[15:35:55 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: the trick to creating the right path for a patch in Aptana is to click Next > and then under Patch Root, select the "Selection" or "Project" radio buttons
[15:37:37 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay... thanks
[15:39:19 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: should I commit FLUID-2459?
[15:39:32 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> I'm getting befuddled
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[15:49:18 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: did colinclark say who was to commit the FLUID-2459 patch?
[15:49:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> oh... sorry.. he's talking with fj4000 i'lll try to ask him
[15:50:07 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I wil leave him alone now
[15:50:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: Sorry, I was blabbing about Java and generics.
[15:50:58 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> generic Java?
[15:51:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> basically my thesis was that Java was completely boring until they added Generics.
[15:51:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> If you're going to copy C++, don't forget the STL.
[15:51:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark>
[15:52:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: You should totally commit FLUID-2459.
[15:52:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> If the King approves.
[15:52:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I approve
[15:52:45 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> thanks... will be done
[15:52:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks
[15:54:45 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: done
[15:55:01 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> perfect... thanks.. i'm going to rebuild the daily build site
[15:55:41 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens> The SVN Link is broken on this page: http://fluidproject.org/products/fluid-infusion/download-infusion/
[15:56:03 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens> the third bullet: SVN: Fluid 0.8 Source Code
[15:56:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sgithens: Wicked, thanks for pointing this out.
[15:56:20 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: I haven't seen your patch land yet
[15:56:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We just restructured our SVN.
[15:56:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the correct url would be http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/tags/fluid-0.8/ sgithens
[15:56:52 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens> megacheers
[15:56:55 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: or colinclark's patch
[15:57:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sgithens, anastasiac: Fixed on the web site.
[15:57:58 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thanks, colinclark
[15:58:15 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: you're right... i forgot to commit it... got caught up in testing... thanks for the reminder
[15:58:23 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> colinclark, elicochran: I've been testing the new InfusionAll.js file. the only tests that failed were the uploader tests because of swf upload. In the past, did we include swfupload in the FluidAll file?
[15:58:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Definitely swfupload.js, yes.
[15:58:41 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens> colinclark: verified
[15:58:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark>
[15:59:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sgithens: Have you used Django much?
[15:59:31 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens> a little. I'm building my next personal thing with Pylons though
[15:59:43 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens> I've used it for a few small projects
[16:00:50 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: can you comment on the FLUID-2480 about your code review
[16:01:15 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: thanks for the reminder
[16:01:21 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> np
[16:02:35 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: done
[16:02:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sgithens: I haven't heard of Pylons. Will have to check it out.
[16:02:48 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> o
[16:03:04 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'm going to commit the patch for FLUID-2480 now
[16:03:39 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens> There was this real cool new Django app Adrian showed off at PyCon. It'll be OSS at the end of June when the grant is done. http://www.everyblock.com/
[16:03:45 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: did you commit your patch for 2464 yet?
[16:03:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: Shortly.
[16:05:15 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: please let me know when you are all done... then I'll start testing uploader again... thanks
[16:05:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Will do.
[16:05:30 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks
[16:06:45 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> hey y'all – electblake has a patch that is standing between him and fabulousness – any chance someone can have a look?
[16:06:59 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero>
[16:07:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jessm, lessthanzero: We're in the home stretch on this release.
[16:07:16 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We might be a bit squeezed today, but tomorrow for sure.
[16:07:34 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> wick'd
[16:07:39 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark, Justin_o: I'm off to a meeting
[16:07:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o is leading us through un-freezing the repository to commit fixes to our several blockers. Then we've got another round of QA... and hopefully we're good to go.
[16:08:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lessthanzero: Sorry for the delay. We won't drop this one.
[16:08:11 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: talk to you later, thanks for your help with the fixes
[16:08:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i have another fluid pager question, if there's anyone around who might know about such things
[16:09:02 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> colinclark: no problem.
[16:09:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Fire away
[16:09:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> would you expect the renderer-based pager to gracefully handle a setup where one item has multiple table rows?
[16:10:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so something where say there's one row with an item for each column, and a row below that with a single cell that spans the whole row
[16:11:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Ok, I'm rebuilding the Uploader server with a change to the build scripts to ensure it is getting the latest and greatest Infusion code.
[16:11:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Next step will be to get my changes to the Image Gallery code itself in.
[16:11:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Then we should be ready to rock.
[16:11:32 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> sounds good, thanks
[16:11:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: I would guess that it's not currently possible.
[16:11:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ack
[16:11:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok, thank you
[16:12:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> If I remember the way the columnDefs work, they apply to the whole table.
[16:12:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I wouldn't be surprised if it's fairly straightforward to for us to add post-1.0.
[16:12:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that'd be nice - this isn't the first time i've run across this use case
[16:12:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll talk to Bosmon about it whenever he reappears from Holland.
[16:12:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[16:12:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Stop me if you think it can actually handle this use case.
[16:12:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> unfortunately i may need to backpedal on this one for now then
[16:12:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Ack, sorry about that.
[16:13:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> since i think we probably have to make a determination today/tomorrow
[16:13:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no, it's ok
[16:13:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Do you have time to file a bug about it, or shall I?
[16:13:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> athena: given my understanding, I would agree with colinclark - but I could be wrong
[16:13:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i can file a bug, although i don't know if you'd describe what actually needs to be done more clearly
[16:13:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[16:13:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> does the renderer-based table support things that aren't tables, by the way?
[16:14:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> athena, good question
[16:14:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> let me double-check
[16:14:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Like divs instead of tables?
[16:14:35 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac rummages in the code
[16:14:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[16:14:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> My guess is there's a template you could customize.
[16:15:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> actually we had a mockup that had a paged accordion panels
[16:15:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> all sorts of random stuff
[16:15:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> if there was a way to support not-tables maybe we could use that for now though?
[16:15:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> athena: Bosmon can give the final work on this, but as far as I understand, it should be possible to work with things other than tables
[16:16:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[16:16:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> as long as it's something that conceptually has 'rows;
[16:16:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so repeated divs, repeated accordian panels
[16:16:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o, elicochran: Just for fun, I decided to mangle the uploader server daily build right before testing.
[16:16:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i mean, lists are supported, right?
[16:16:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Awesome, huh?
[16:16:42 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, it should be
[16:17:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> athena, whatever your template declares to be a "row" will be repeated for each data item
[16:17:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so in theory maybe it'd be ok if a conceptual row consisted of multiple tr elements? we'd just have to write more manual code rather than letting the existing fluid defaults hook it all together for us?
[16:17:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> athena, I'm not sure about the table rows - I think that whatever is repeated has to be contained in a single element
[16:18:07 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> which I don't think you can do with table rows
[16:18:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[16:18:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Bosmon is the best person to confirm/retute all this, but he's not online yet
[16:18:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[16:18:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thank you
[16:18:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> (refute)
[16:18:43 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sorry I can't be more helpful
[16:18:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no that is helpful
[16:19:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Bosmon is apparently in transit, and might be online later tonight
[16:19:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> at least lets me know i should do some backpedaling and come up with some alternate solutions for now
[16:19:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no problem
[16:19:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks
[16:19:18 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> colinclark: had we decided that custom builds should not include tests and examples? currently they include all the tests and examples - even those that don't work
[16:19:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> umm
[16:19:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> hmm [16:19:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> what does a release build do? [16:19:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> it includes all of those things too, right michelled? [16:19:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> also includes all the tests and examples [16:19:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yeah, that's fine for now [16:19:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> but in a release build they will work [16:20:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Ah, good point. [16:20:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Well, so there are two scenarios then? [16:20:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 1. Ship tests and examples, some of which will be appropriate for the custom build and some of which won't. [16:20:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 2. Don't ship tests and examples with a custom build. If you want them, do a full build or grab the source. [16:20:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Does that sound about right? [16:21:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes, but there is also a third option - add to the dependency file some way to figure out which examples and tests to include [16:21:36 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> but I think it's a bit late to do this for 1.0 [16:21:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Agreed. [16:21:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> How hard does #2 feel right now? [16:21:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sounds better to me [16:22:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I prefer non broken, personally [16:23:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Me too, if you can do it. [16:23:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> should be easy [16:25:20 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I made a patch for : http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2473 [16:25:24 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Justin_o: ^ [16:25:30 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks [16:25:37 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> if anyone would be able to review, that would be great [16:25:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: do you have to do a quick code review for fj4000 [16:26:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, fj4000: sure, I'll have a look [16:26:32 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> thx [16:27:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks [16:32:10 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> anyone know how to move pages in our wiki? [16:32:18 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> or are we at a version that makes that tough? [16:32:32 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> you want to make it a child of another page? [16:32:42 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> yes [16:32:47 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> child swapping [16:33:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> you can do that... when you go into edit mode... at the top... there is a link... let me go check what it is called [16:33:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o, elicochran: Phew. Uploader server is up and running again. I'll go ahead and commit my FLUID-2464 patch now. [16:34:15 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: so when you go to edit a page, under the title you'll see something called location. at the end it says edit. click on that and you'll be able to change its parent [16:34:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: that's great.. thanks [16:35:04 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: thanks much! [16:38:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o, elicochran: Ok, FLUID-2464 is now in, and I've rebuilt the Uploader server daily build. I can see the fix is in place and seems to be working. I think we're ready for testing. [16:38:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll move on to the Inline Edit issues. [16:39:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: thanks alot.... i'll start the uploader testing now [16:39:47 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anyone else want to help? [16:42:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, fj4000: I've reviewed and tested the patch for FLUID-2473: +1 [16:43:27 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks [16:43:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> np [16:43:35 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> fj4000: you can go ahead and commit that now [16:44:11 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: thanks again – all set with kid swapping [16:44:23 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> and i love how renaming in Confluence happens automagically [16:45:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: that's the best part of confluence [16:46:09 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: if you have any time to do testing later, the uploader is now available to test [16:46:16 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> ahhhh [16:46:35 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> ff3 and safari 3? [17:12:24 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac (n=stasia@142.150.154.189) has left #fluid-work [17:16:32 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: sorry... i didn't see that comment, but yes those are okay... uploader also supports two versions of flash 9 and 10. so you can choose the version that you have on your machine [17:16:41 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'm off now... thanks for the help. [17:16:43 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> i have 10 [17:16:52 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> oh, ok, check in with you tomorrow [17:16:55 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> go Heels! [17:17:19 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: thanks.. and good look for the game [17:17:26 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> thanks! [17:23:19 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: I completely misssed it but gyphie released a final on the 27th of March [17:23:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: Interesting. I guess we'll have to test it carefully for 1.1 [17:23:45 EDT(-0400)] * clown_afk (n=clown@142.150.154.101) has left #fluid-work [17:23:53 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> From his blurb: This change may break your site if you are using URLs relative to the SWF file (which was the most common use and was the method used in the Demos). Relative URLs are now relative to the document. We still recommend using absolute URLs. [17:24:32 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> colinclark: ^ [17:24:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> elicochran: !! [17:24:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> wow [17:24:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> well, i guess it's definitive [17:26:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> good to know we weren't crazy, elicochran [17:26:44 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> oh, I knew we were crazy! [17:26:50 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> just not about this [17:31:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> colinclark: i've managed to extricate myself enough to look at the fluid build [17:31:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> am i supposed to run an ant task or something? [17:31:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Yeah, there are a couple of different targets. [17:32:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Now there's one unfortunate caveat... [17:32:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> The version of Ant 1.7.0 that ships with Mac OS X is incomplete, and doesn't ship with any of the optional tasks. [17:32:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah. [17:32:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and i'm actually running w/ 1.6 [17:32:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> since 1.7.0 breaks uportal [17:32:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> got a recommended version to download? [17:32:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: I suspect you'll be out of luck with 1.6, but I'm not sure. [17:33:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We're using the ScriptTask, which I think was part of 1.7. [17:33:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> will the most recent apache distro work? [17:33:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: yep, 1.7.1 was the latest as of last week. It should work just fine. [17:33:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> awesome [17:33:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So then you'll also need to do one other thing... [17:33:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> For whatever reason, Ant doesn't seem to ship with a couple of optional jars... [17:34:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So when you download and install Ant 1.7.1, run ant -f fetch.xml from your ant directory. [17:34:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok [17:35:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so once that's done, is there something i need to configure to get the custom build that i want? [17:37:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: After that, just run the customBuild target like this: [17:38:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ant customBuild -Dinclude="reorderer, pager" -Dexclude="jQuery, jQueryUICore, jQueryUIWidgets" [17:38:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> or whatever you like [17:38:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> excellent [17:38:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We'll have a web-app front end for this in 1.1, but for now you get to sling command line arguments around. [17:38:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is there a list of what the potential include/exclude items are? [17:39:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm ok with that [17:39:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Not yet. We haven't written any documentation for it. [17:39:29 EDT(-0400)] * athena pulls command line duel wielding scripts out of her holsters [17:39:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok [17:40:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> [17:40:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Best way to find out the names is to check the build.properties files. [17:40:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i was just about to ask that [17:40:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> You'll see a whole whack of properties prepended with module_ [17:40:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so where do the jquery plugins come in - i don't see them in here [17:40:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So the names will be like the second half of the property name. [17:40:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So, for example... [17:40:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> module_jQueryUIWidgets=lib/jquery/ui [17:40:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jQueryUIWidgets [17:41:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sorry for the dorkiness, we'll get some doco together before the release. [17:41:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sorry, i meant specifically the things in "src/webapp/lib/jquery/plugins" [17:41:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think we need to exclude the jquery core, ui, and widgets, but include the selectbox and tooltip [17:41:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> aha, yes [17:42:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> since we only have the standard jquery ui widgets included in the portal [17:42:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> that sounds correct, yes [17:42:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> let me check that out [17:42:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks! [17:42:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Yeah, we're missing a module for the plugins. [17:44:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: I think you've found a bug [17:44:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> glad i looked, then [17:45:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i wish i'd had time to test the trunk against uPortal [17:45:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Since Inline Edit can't possibly build correctly without tooltip [17:45:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: No worries. This stuff is really hot off the press. [17:45:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Like, as in, today. [17:45:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh, i meant the upcoming javascript itself [17:45:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ah, right [17:45:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but i suppose it'll be easier to do testing w/ the trunk in the future if i don't have to build the dependencies by hand [17:45:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> [17:45:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> that's what we're hoping [17:48:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, it's definitely much appreciated! [17:48:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so do i need to explicitly set both includes and excludes, or just one or the other? [17:50:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: It depends what you want. [17:51:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> In short, each "module" has a little bit of json that declares two things: [17:51:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 1. the files that belong with the module [17:51:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 2. the modules that this module depends on [17:51:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So you can imagine that just about anything we build will depend on jQuery, etc. [17:51:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh ok [17:51:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> In that case, it needs to be explicitly excluded. [17:52:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> makes sense [17:52:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But in cases where there isn't a stated dependency, you just won't get it unless you ask for it. [17:52:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do i need to specify includes as well, or will it include all top-level modules by default? [17:53:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hmm [17:54:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> If you want everything, there is another target called "releaseBuild." [17:54:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But in this case, you want everything except jQuery and jQuery UI. [17:54:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Lemme try it and see what it does. [17:56:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: This says it does what you want... [17:56:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ant customBuild -Dexclude="jQuery, jQueryUICore, jQueryUIWidgets" [17:56:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok, cool [17:56:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> if i had to specify everything else that would be ok - mostly just curious as to how it works [17:56:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> The output says it's excluding jQuery, jQueryUICore, and jQueryUIWidgets. And everything is listed in the includes. [17:56:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that sounds absolutely perfect [17:56:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, that's awesome [17:57:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled was amazing with these scripts. [17:57:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> They emerged almost out of nowhere. [17:57:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm actually more worried about how the portal will work with jquery ui 1.7 than with fluid 1.0 [17:57:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: We did the upgrade to UI 1.7 and had no trouble. [17:57:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i noticed that it seems like some selectors like ":not(:eq(2))" don't seem to work [17:57:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> You're using an rc of 1.6, right? [17:57:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> or really i guess that's jquery 1.3.2, not the jquery ui [17:57:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah [17:57:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Yeah, that'd be core. [17:57:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah [17:57:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so we'll see [17:58:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm surprised if some selectors are just broken like that. [17:58:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Wow. [17:58:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah i haven't actually had time to do real testing to find out if it was just something weird i did or what [17:58:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hoping it was me. 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