fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-02-05

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[09:03:17 EST(-0500)] <sveto> hi jameswy, are you there?
[09:15:45 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> sveto: Yep, what's up?
[09:17:16 EST(-0500)] <sveto> I read your email about collections in engage and have the feeling that I might not have fully understood it
[09:17:57 EST(-0500)] <sveto> there is the idea to persist the collection in the device only
[09:18:38 EST(-0500)] <sveto> which will change the way it works now
[09:19:14 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Correct: for 0.3, "My Collection" should persist on the device only; in other words, there should be no need to create a synchronized "My Collection" on the server-side.
[09:20:43 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ok, I have to think about that a bit, the best way to implement and s.o., some more questions -
[09:21:05 EST(-0500)] <sveto> what then happens with the user not logged in alert - is it shown?
[09:21:31 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> An alert is no longer shown for 0.3. In fact, the login feature has been entirely removed for 0.3
[09:21:45 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ok
[09:22:46 EST(-0500)] <sveto> what about the content of the email sent to the user - will it contains links to the artifacts pages and will it have a grid or list layout?
[09:24:06 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Good question. I believe the McCord will be handling the emailing side of things.
[09:24:58 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> I can open up a thread with them to get this clarified (i.e., what we need to do once the submit button is pressed)
[09:25:07 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ok, that will help
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[09:26:25 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Great--I'll send it out now.
[09:26:44 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Also, thanks for the reply about the icons--I'll attach them to your Jiras.
[09:27:11 EST(-0500)] <jessm> boyan1: thanks for the document!
[09:27:24 EST(-0500)] <sveto> jameswy: thanks
[09:28:48 EST(-0500)] <boyan1> jessm: no problem, hope it is sufficient
[09:29:04 EST(-0500)] <jessm> boyan1: yes, i think so – working with it now
[09:30:30 EST(-0500)] <boyan1> ok
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[10:30:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> hey sveto
[10:30:25 EST(-0500)] <sveto> hi colin
[10:30:30 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll get back to you and James on the list, but here's the short version:
[10:30:36 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Hugues will provide us a URL to post to
[10:30:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> The body of the POST will contain user email address, language, and the artifact IDs.
[10:31:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> That's it.
[10:31:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Ideally, we could just POST him the user document at JSON...
[10:31:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but he's writing it in PHP so will probably be more comfortable with plain old form key/value pairs
[10:31:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> One other thing, sveto...
[10:32:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Today is integration day. And I know you're getting to the end of your day. So before you leave, can you just do one more merge with trunk so your branches are up to date
[10:32:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And then I'll get 'em into trunk in time for bug parade.
[10:32:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Things are really coming together nicely!
[10:35:13 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ok, bad thing is that we are missing some key functionality for my collection and I was hoping that some work could be done till monday
[10:37:43 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> sveto: You can still work on it during bug parade. You'll just need to submit patches rather than work in your branch
[10:37:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Slightly inconvenient, but not a big deal. I'll make sure your patches get merged
[10:38:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> What is the key functionality we're missing at the moment?
[10:38:02 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ok, that is fine
[10:38:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bug parade isn't "stop coding," it's just time to slow down on new features--finish up the details and start squashing bugs.
[10:38:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So justin_o regularly categorizes bits of missing functionality as bugs for the bug parade. So no worries
[10:39:14 EST(-0500)] <sveto> i18n, "get next 20 artifacts", "send email" and I think that's it, let me check to make sure
[10:40:20 EST(-0500)] <sveto> yes, that's it, I also need to switch to client side persistence for the collection
[11:15:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> sveto: Don't switch to client side persistence for My Collection. If you're already saving the collection in Couch, leave it that way.
[11:16:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> No reason to remove a perfectly good feature
[11:16:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I think jameswy's email may have been confusion in that regard. He wasn't asking us to remove existing functionality, just not to worry about it if it wasn't already in place.
[11:16:34 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ok, that's good news
[11:16:40 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy's email was really more about how Hugues will handle it, rather than us.
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[12:03:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> sveto: Just a heads up that Hugues responded to our thread about sending My Collections to him.
[12:03:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We should undoubtedly make the specific URL an option to the component. And despite the fact that his script supports GETs, we may as well be semantic about it and use POST instead.
[12:08:24 EST(-0500)] <sveto> colinclark: ok, this reminds me to review the POST I do when collecting artifacts. about POSTs - does using jQuery.ajax and passing the parameters as the data option work?
[12:09:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> sveto: It does indeed, yes.
[12:09:18 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ok, thanks
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[14:04:48 EST(-0500)] <sveto> colinclark: I'm done with the merge and changed some addresses pointing to my machine.
[14:04:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> sveto: Awesome, thanks!
[14:05:17 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm trying to make some progress on the Navigation Bar component, and then I'll do some review and merge your stuff
[14:05:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Must be getting late there for you
[14:05:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And on a Friday, no less!
[14:06:02 EST(-0500)] <sveto> ah, its kind of late indeed
[14:06:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Go have a good weekend
[14:06:28 EST(-0500)] <sveto> I'm leaving now, so have a nice weekend and talk to you soon
[14:06:36 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> See you soon!
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[15:06:07 EST(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: so, hugues file...
[15:06:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Yep
[15:06:37 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i think he only translated the one that already had french spots in them
[15:06:54 EST(-0500)] <jessm> e.g. tags didn't get a translation to its English file
[15:07:21 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i can ask him to do the others?
[15:18:45 EST(-0500)] <jessm> yikes, colinclark i'm also convinced i'm patching wrong
[15:18:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Gimme one sec and I'll help you
[15:19:14 EST(-0500)] <jessm> :|
[15:24:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Sorry, was helping justin_o with an issue Greg was facing with the Undo component
[15:24:52 EST(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: i'm sorry!
[15:24:57 EST(-0500)] <jessm> so, i've done two
[15:24:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Some fairly weak i18n in there, I'm afraid. Not impossible to use, but weak.
[15:25:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Ok, great
[15:25:14 EST(-0500)] <jessm> one that had a fr json file and one that didn't
[15:25:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: You should definitely ask Hugues to do the rest
[15:25:20 EST(-0500)] <jessm> and i'm sure i've screwed something up
[15:25:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Why are you sure?
[15:25:35 EST(-0500)] <jessm> gut feeling
[15:26:05 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i've attached the two patches to the jira: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-287?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel jira, but
[15:26:14 EST(-0500)] <jessm> but i'm sure the naming is incomprehensible
[15:26:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> What will be awesome is if you make a patch for the whole thing
[15:26:32 EST(-0500)] <jessm> eek
[15:26:40 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So, in other words, you can make a patch for all of engage-core's trunk
[15:26:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> In one file
[15:27:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Your first patch looks great.
[15:27:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Your second patch doesn't quite look right.
[15:27:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I can screen share and give you a hand, jessm
[15:27:40 EST(-0500)] <jessm> sure
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[15:56:12 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> colinclark, yura, sveto, Bosmon, jameswy , jessm and etc. I have made a first pass at the bug parade issues. They are found with this filter http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&amp;requestId=10128
[15:56:39 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> if any of those issues are actually finished, please close then off, but delete the bug parade tag first please...
[15:57:01 EST(-0500)] <justin_o> also if there are others that should be there please let me know and add the bug parade tag to the comments... thanks
[16:00:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks, justin_o
[16:00:29 EST(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: you might be able to close ENGAGE-287; it's been patched; give it a very thorough going over though, i can't be trusted: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-287
[16:01:03 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: I'll resolve it and close it once I've had a chance to review and commit.
[16:01:13 EST(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: thanks in advance
[16:01:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> These patches are excellent--so convenient to review.
[16:01:32 EST(-0500)] <jessm> my first patches!
[16:01:36 EST(-0500)] <jessm> ok, my second
[16:01:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I just have to finish a few changes in my working space and then I'll get yours in
[16:01:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Have you signed a CLA yet?
[16:02:08 EST(-0500)] <jessm> YES
[16:13:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> hey jessm
[16:13:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Quick question: Did you update your patch for engage-core trunk?
[16:13:32 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I see that there's still an empty bundle for tags
[16:14:17 EST(-0500)] <jessm> eh?
[16:14:27 EST(-0500)] <jessm> do i need to do something else?
[16:15:09 EST(-0500)] <jessm> the patch in the jira?
[16:16:34 EST(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: lemme check
[16:16:39 EST(-0500)] <jessm> not sure what happened there
[16:18:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Ping me when you've added a new patch to JIRA and I'll commit it
[16:20:03 EST(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: i think it's good now
[16:20:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks
[16:25:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: I'm having terrible character encoding problems with your patch...
[16:25:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> N
[16:25:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Not at all your fault
[16:25:20 EST(-0500)] <jessm> oh crap!
[16:25:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> In fact, it has nothing to do with the patch itself
[16:25:29 EST(-0500)] <jessm> is it textmate?
[16:25:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> No, TextMate is great
[16:25:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It seems to be the patch tool
[16:26:04 EST(-0500)] <jessm> versions?
[16:27:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> No, on my system
[16:27:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> What a mess! Not your fault, not your concern
[16:28:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But annoying nonetheless
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