fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-01-20
[06:50:24 EST(-0500)] * phiggins (n=dante@c-68-34-199-67.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work
[08:22:47 EST(-0500)] * laurelw (n=Laurel@142.150.154.178) has joined #fluid-work
[08:39:01 EST(-0500)] * Justin_o (n=Justin@142.150.154.101) has joined #fluid-work
[09:13:04 EST(-0500)] * athena7 (n=athena7@adsl-99-136-251-32.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #fluid-work
[09:36:35 EST(-0500)] * EricDalquist (n=dalquist@bohemia.doit.wisc.edu) has joined #fluid-work
[10:12:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> if anyone happens to be around, i'm having some significant problems with the Fluid 0.7 release and current trunk combined with some of the jQuery UI widgets
[10:12:42 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena7: I'm not sure if I can help, but can see if I can find someone. What seems to be the problem.
[10:13:30 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'm not sure exactly what's going on, but i'm getting a lot of javascript errors like "C[F][E] is not a constructor" from the jQuery UI code
[10:13:41 EST(-0500)] <athena7> particularly on calls to set up dialogs and tabs
[10:14:07 EST(-0500)] * michelled (n=michelle@142.150.154.197) has joined #fluid-work
[10:14:16 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i seem to get errors for both the 1.5.2 and 1.6rc4 versions of jQuery UI, although i could check specifically with 1.5.3 for completeness
[10:19:05 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena7: i think we included 1.5.3, I'm just going to double check our tabs example that was in the distribution
[10:19:31 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah i expect that that was the target release - 1.6 is only in release candidates right now
[10:19:43 EST(-0500)] <athena7> rebuilding the portal w/ 1.5.3 now
[10:21:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> please let me know how it goes
[10:23:26 EST(-0500)] <athena7> will do
[10:23:34 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> thank you
[10:23:36 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, still having problems
[10:23:51 EST(-0500)] <athena7> with 1.5.3 i get "$[namespace][name] is not a constructor"
[10:25:17 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> hmmm
[10:26:04 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i just tried it on a page with no uportal javascript to make sure it's not some sort of conflict w/ uportal's code
[10:26:12 EST(-0500)] <athena7> unfortunately still get the error 
[10:26:24 EST(-0500)] <athena7> so this one is specifically dialog creation
[10:26:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> do you have a test page that we may be able to get access to
[10:27:22 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i can zip up and email you this one if you'd like
[10:27:59 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sure that would be helpful. thanks... do you have my e-mail address?
[10:28:40 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> if not I can send it to you on IM
[10:28:51 EST(-0500)] <athena7> if you could IM it to me that'd be great, thanks 
[10:31:33 EST(-0500)] * fj4000 (n=Jacob@142.150.154.106) has joined #fluid-work
[10:32:23 EST(-0500)] * clown (n=clown@guiseppi.atrc.utoronto.ca) has joined #fluid-work
[10:39:08 EST(-0500)] * michelled (n=team@142.150.154.197) has joined #fluid-work
[10:41:54 EST(-0500)] * colinclark (n=colin@bas2-toronto09-1176406152.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #fluid-work
[10:44:38 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena7: try rearranging the scripts... i put the Fluid one in between the two jquery script imports and i think it may work.
[10:44:50 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh!
[10:44:53 EST(-0500)] <athena7> excellent i'll try that
[10:45:38 EST(-0500)] <athena7> heeeeeey
[10:45:43 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think that may have done it
[10:46:12 EST(-0500)] <athena7> this is the kind of fix i love
[10:46:13 EST(-0500)] <athena7> simple
[10:46:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> thanks so much!
[10:46:54 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> no problem... glad to help
[10:47:19 EST(-0500)] * Justin_o (n=Justin@142.150.154.101) has left #fluid-work
[10:51:02 EST(-0500)] * Justin_o (n=Justin@142.150.154.101) has joined #fluid-work
[11:03:59 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok
[11:04:20 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i've confirmed that there is a problem with dragging the google search portlet in internet explorer
[11:04:31 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i don't know why it's a problem - it's not from document.write calls
[11:04:54 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@12.164.139.7) has joined #fluid-work
[11:06:52 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena7: I think you were speaking to bosmon about this not too long ago... what version of fluid were you using at that time
[11:07:05 EST(-0500)] <athena7> at that point i was using 0.6
[11:07:16 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i've just confirmed the problem still exists with the trunk
[11:07:36 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> which version of fluid is in the trunk of uPortal?
[11:08:28 EST(-0500)] * phiggins (n=dante@c-68-34-199-67.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work
[11:09:19 EST(-0500)] <athena7> committed, 0.6
[11:09:34 EST(-0500)] <athena7> in my test instance, revision 6333 (pulled from trunk this morning)
[11:11:28 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay... I'm going to try to take a look at it with our instance of uportal, which i believe runs off of uportals trunk
[11:12:03 EST(-0500)] <athena7> that should show it, assuming it's up to date
[11:12:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena7: what issue did you experience... did the page just freeze?
[11:12:14 EST(-0500)] <athena7> last time i looked it didn't seem to have been updated in a while
[11:13:04 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes.. i think we had it updated.... i'll send you the link so you can double check http://build.fluidproject.org/uPortal/render.userLayoutRootNode.uP
[11:14:37 EST(-0500)] <athena7> no
[11:14:41 EST(-0500)] <athena7> that's a pretty old version
[11:14:56 EST(-0500)] <athena7> looks like it has fluid 0.5
[11:16:02 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> oh too bad... the person who helps with that is often busy on his other work, but i'll try to get him to update it.... do you have a version on a server that I could test against?
[11:18:06 EST(-0500)] <athena7> no, sorry
[11:18:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i don't have access to any servers we can use, really
[11:18:33 EST(-0500)] <athena7> and i'm behind my home firewall
[11:18:44 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i can send you a zipped up non-portal demo like i did earlier though
[11:18:58 EST(-0500)] <athena7> that might be better in some ways, since all the uportal-specific stuff is stripped out
[11:19:18 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> oh sure... if that will show the problem that would be easier.. thanks
[11:21:55 EST(-0500)] * mtheoryx83 (n=mtheoryx@c-68-58-86-205.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work
[11:24:27 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok
[11:36:41 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, sent!
[11:37:06 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> thanks I'll take a look at it and let you know if i can track anything down
[11:38:13 EST(-0500)] <athena7> thanks!
[11:45:59 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena7: I seem to be getting a JScript runtime error: 'Google-exportSymbol' is underfined
[11:46:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> hm, interesting
[11:46:18 EST(-0500)] <athena7> in firefox?
[11:46:23 EST(-0500)] <athena7> or ie?
[11:46:26 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ie
[11:46:37 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> line 85 of default+en.I.js
[11:47:10 EST(-0500)] <athena7> on page load or on drag?
[11:47:32 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> on drag
[11:47:47 EST(-0500)] <athena7> interesting
[11:47:54 EST(-0500)] <athena7> when i drag it seems to try to reload the page
[11:48:09 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm using Visual Web Developer to debug so it will break on errors
[11:48:51 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, i'm seeing it now
[11:48:57 EST(-0500)] <athena7> just turned on the show all script errors option
[11:50:27 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'll take a look and see if maybe the google apis have changed or something
[11:50:46 EST(-0500)] <athena7> although i think they're usually pretty good about versioning
[11:51:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay... let me know if there is anything else you want me to look at for you.. or if there is more i can help with for this issue
[11:52:21 EST(-0500)] <athena7> thanks
[11:52:30 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> np
[11:54:59 EST(-0500)] <athena7> interesting
[11:55:08 EST(-0500)] <athena7> the new-style GSA search seems to work
[11:55:21 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'm going to vote we just use that and don't worry much about the existing behavior
[11:55:26 EST(-0500)] <athena7> because it's probably not worth it
[12:01:52 EST(-0500)] <athena7> president.swap()!
[12:17:51 EST(-0500)] * anastasiac (n=stasia@142.150.154.235) has joined #fluid-work
[12:57:42 EST(-0500)] * ecochran (n=ecochran@dhcp-169-229-212-50.LIPS.Berkeley.EDU) has joined #fluid-work
[13:00:19 EST(-0500)] * colinclark (n=colin@bas2-toronto09-1176406152.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #fluid-work
[13:25:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena7: sorry i missed your previous comments, good to hear the new version is working. And congratulations on the new president
[13:26:30 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yep, it all looks great
[13:26:34 EST(-0500)] <athena7> thanks for your help!
[13:27:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> no problem, I'm glad to help.
[13:27:16 EST(-0500)] * Justin_o (n=Justin@142.150.154.101) has left #fluid-work
[13:31:50 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@12.164.139.7) has joined #fluid-work
[13:39:43 EST(-0500)] * Justin_o (n=Justin@142.150.154.101) has joined #fluid-work
[13:59:55 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@12.164.139.7) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * laurelw (n=Laurel@142.150.154.178) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * athena7 (n=athena7@adsl-99-136-251-32.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * EricDalquist (n=dalquist@bohemia.doit.wisc.edu) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * fj4000 (n=Jacob@142.150.154.106) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * clown (n=clown@guiseppi.atrc.utoronto.ca) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * michelled (n=team@142.150.154.197) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * phiggins (n=dante@c-68-34-199-67.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * anastasiac (n=stasia@142.150.154.235) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * ecochran (n=ecochran@dhcp-169-229-212-50.LIPS.Berkeley.EDU) has joined #fluid-work
[15:10:37 EST(-0500)] * Justin_o (n=Justin@142.150.154.101) has joined #fluid-work
[15:11:03 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> sorry just realized I needed to scroll down
[15:11:04 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> 3.1 is still a ways away
[15:11:25 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, that was kind of my guess from looking at the jira roadmap over the weekend
[15:11:28 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I want to evaluate where it stands next week and see if there is any reality in a release before the conference
[15:11:34 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that is my ultimate goal
[15:11:39 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but that date is fast approaching
[15:12:50 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> EricDalquist and athena7 : this might help you get a picture on the release for jQuery 1.3.1 http://dev.jquery.com/query?status=new&s1tatus=assigned&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=1.3.1&order=priority
[15:13:29 EST(-0500)] <athena7> thanks
[15:14:23 EST(-0500)] <athena7> from what you're both saying, it sounds like it might not be totally unreasonable to leave 1.6rc4 in there for now, with the hope that there might be a jquery 1.3 / jquery ui 1.6 compatible fluid release by the time we have a uportal 3.1 release
[15:16:36 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> this is the block/critical bug list for jQuery UI. http://ui.jquery.com/bugs/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=component&max=250&order=priority&priority=blocker&priority=critical&col=id&col=summary&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=version&milestone=1.6&report=16
[15:17:21 EST(-0500)] <michelled> sorry to jump in late here - when is 3.1 code freeze?
[15:17:42 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> that was my question too.
[15:18:02 EST(-0500)] <michelled> oh, I see "a ways away"
[15:18:38 EST(-0500)] <michelled> We'll want to be using the most recent versions of jQuery/jQuery UI for 1.0. That's expected at the end of March
[15:18:47 EST(-0500)] <michelled> But if we can upgrade sooner we will
[15:19:06 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I suspect that we'll have a 1.3.1 this week, if just to fix the selector bugs
[15:19:19 EST(-0500)] <michelled> we've got some of our a11y code in jQuery 1.3 and jQuery UI 1.6 so we'll be able to get rid of some code
[15:19:22 EST(-0500)] <michelled> always good
[15:19:50 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I no longer trust the schedules coming from jQuery UI. (A lession in over promising... you lose the trust of your customers.)
[15:21:07 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think my inclination right now is to just kind of do nothing, and re-evaluate where we're at when we get closer to having a uportal release
[15:22:19 EST(-0500)] * michelled (n=team@142.150.154.197) has left #fluid-work
[15:28:54 EST(-0500)] <athena7> argh, it looks like there's no available update to the google maps API
[15:29:06 EST(-0500)] <athena7> so any portlet including that will still break the page when dragged in IE
[15:43:12 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@12.164.139.7) has joined #fluid-work
[16:04:39 EST(-0500)] * laurelw (n=Laurel@142.150.154.178) has left #fluid-work
[16:14:54 EST(-0500)] * EricDalquist (n=dalquist@bohemia.doit.wisc.edu) has joined #fluid-work
[16:33:02 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> if folks here are interested we've started to document recommendations around JavaScript development in portlets here: http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/PLT/JavaScript+Best+Practices
[16:33:12 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> please feel free to add to or revise that page as needed
[17:25:51 EST(-0500)] * clown (n=clown@guiseppi.atrc.utoronto.ca) has left #fluid-work
[17:55:35 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@12.164.139.7) has joined #fluid-work
[17:58:55 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@12.164.139.7) has joined #fluid-work
[19:11:36 EST(-0500)] * lessthanzero (n=lessthan@wcpbarri501bryne.grokspots.com) has joined #fluid-work
[19:47:20 EST(-0500)] * phiggins (n=dante@c-68-34-199-67.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work
[22:01:59 EST(-0500)] * athena7 (n=athena7@adsl-99-136-251-32.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #fluid-work
[22:16:51 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@ip68-3-207-51.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #fluid-work