fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-06-02

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[16:50:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac, michelled: How are things going with the release prep? I see lots of tagging-related commits, which is great. (smile)
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[16:51:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled is testing the release bundles, I'm working on the release pages for the wiki, etc.
[16:51:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Colloquy was fried...
[16:51:16 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sorry, I may have missed your last message. (sad)
[16:51:24 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> tweaking the api docs so that the different versions of docs reference each other
[16:51:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Great.
[16:51:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> could you look at http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Reorderer+API and let me know what you think?
[16:51:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll go back to reviewing your documentation and then draft the announcement.
[16:51:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Sure, no problem.
[16:54:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I wonder if we should highlight the simple API first in the Reorderer API.
[16:54:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Most people won't use the more complex functions unless the simple API is insufficient for their needs.
[16:54:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> What do you think?
[16:55:16 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sure - are you able to make that change?
[16:55:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Sure, why not? (smile)
[16:56:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thanks - I'm in the middle of 2 or 3 other tasks right now - brain... overloading...
[17:04:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I don't have my Strunk & White nearby... (tongue)
[17:04:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Should list items have periods at the end of them?
[17:04:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> If they are full sentences, yes
[17:04:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> k, thanks
[17:11:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: For API documentation, is your convention to put optional items in square brackets?
[17:11:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Like reorderList(containerSelector, itemSelector, [orderChangedCallback], [options]);?
[17:13:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> good question - I started that, then decided it was not very readable, visually, and took it out (or tried to - missed some?)
[17:13:08 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> what do you think?
[17:13:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark ^
[17:13:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Not sure.
[17:13:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It's nice to know what's optional.
[17:13:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I guess there's also the risk that it gets read as "wrap this in an array."
[17:13:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Since array literals are just square brackets.
[17:14:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Italics would be nice, but I assume the
macro can't handle such subtleties.
[17:14:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I'll avoid the square brackets for now, then, if you're no longer using the convention.
[17:14:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sounds good, colinclark - thanks
[17:15:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we can revisit for future updates
[17:19:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark, let me know when you're finished any changes to the Reorderer API page - the same changes will need to be made to the v0.3 snapshot page
[17:19:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Almost finished.
[17:19:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Just writing some extra copy about why you'd want to use the advanced form of Reorderer constructor.
[17:19:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Not really sure why, actually. (smile)
[17:20:31 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> (smile)
[17:23:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Okay, I'm done.
[17:24:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hopefully I haven't made your beautiful documentation hopelessly complex. (tongue)
[17:24:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> cool, thanks colinclark
[17:24:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Reorderer+API
[17:25:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Ack! The rich text editor appears to have eaten up the ToC page strangely!
[17:25:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I will fix.
[17:25:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh, yes - rich text editor = evil!
[17:25:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We should ban the use of the rich text editor in Confluence!
[17:26:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I'm still not sure I agree that we should be including the results of UX Walkthroughs and the Content Management Research in our UX Toolkit.
[17:27:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But I think that's one to discuss after the release goes out the door.
[17:27:08 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> topic for discussion on the wiki?
[17:27:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> not wiki, list, sorry
[17:27:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> my brain is wiki focussed right now (smile)
[17:28:19 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> that's a good one for the list
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[17:29:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jessm: Yep, it sure is.
[17:29:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I saw you lurking there. (wink)
[17:29:58 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> (smile)
[17:48:07 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark, your edits to the release page look good - should I go ahead and create the page on the public site?
[17:48:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I want to be a bit more specific about What's New.
[17:48:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Do you want to try to tweak it or should I?
[17:48:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> if you have time, that would help
[17:49:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think it would be helpful to know what the highlights are for the "Reorderer Improvements"
[17:49:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Sure, no problem.
[17:49:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> good point
[17:53:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac, michelled: So what are the core improvements we made to Reorderer? There are so many!
[17:53:48 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> well the simple API, of course. plugable avatar, I think
[17:54:04 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> better support for nesting
[17:54:30 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark loves the release notes for jQuery 1.2.6: http://docs.jquery.com/Release:jQuery_1.2.6
[17:55:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> new layout handler for modules
[17:57:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> multiple key mappings
[17:57:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> pluggable key mappings
[17:58:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> colinclark: I think those are the main things
[17:58:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Awesome, thanks!
[17:58:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm updating it now.
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[18:12:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Sorry for the delay.
[18:12:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm finished with the Downloads page. Do you want to take a look?
[18:12:23 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> no problem!
[18:12:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Downloads
[18:13:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> looks excellent!
[18:13:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Is it hard to move this page from the wiki into the CMS?
[18:13:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Or do you just link to it?
[18:13:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> no, it's a 'port' but not hard - shall I go ahead and do that?
[18:13:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Yes, please do. I'll draft the announcement based on this text.
[18:13:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> excellent!
[18:14:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Wow, we did it! (smile)
[18:15:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jessm: Do you have a sense of how widely we should announce this release?
[18:16:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Of course I'll post to fluid-announce.
[18:16:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And the Sakai and uPortal communities will undoubtedly be interested.
[18:16:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It's always hard to find the right forum for posting to the Moodle communities, and the Kuali Student lists are private.
[18:16:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jessm: Anywhere else that comes to mind?
[18:24:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark, the website has been updated.
[18:24:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> when you send out the announcement, I'll post a 'news' item to the site
[18:24:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: That's it! We're done! (smile)
[18:24:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yay!
[18:24:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Yes, good idea.
[18:25:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> asnastasiac: Well, go home then. (smile)
[18:25:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: ^
[18:28:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: The What's New section on the web site isn't quite the same as the wiki page.
[18:28:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Extremely minor: it should be the "Uploader design pattern"
[18:28:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sorry, "Upload design pattern."
[18:29:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, will do...
[18:29:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Thanks. Minor detail, sorry.
[18:30:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thanks for catching that
[18:32:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: One more minor change?
[18:32:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> What is Fluid Infusion?
[18:32:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Fluid Infusion is a collection of rich, reusable, accessible user interface components built for the Web. These components have been designed by a cross-disciplinary team and thoroughly tested for usability and accessibility. By incorporating Fluid components into your web application's user interface, you will make your application easier to use by more people. Easier to use means happier users.
[18:32:57 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> done
[18:33:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Also, there's a reference to 0.3beta1 in the Known Issues section.
[18:33:38 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac sighs
[18:33:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sorry about that
[18:33:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[18:33:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> No problem I totally understand.
[18:34:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fixed
[18:36:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Can you think of any other volunteers we have who should be thanked aside from Kathy and Justin?
[18:36:46 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> not that I know of...
[18:37:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> k, thanks
[18:40:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: We should also add a section on getting help to the Downloads Page
[18:40:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll draft something really quick.
[18:40:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> cool, thanks
[18:43:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Downloads
[18:43:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> "Getting Help" section.
[18:44:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Feel free to edit, revise, or destroy. (smile)
[18:51:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: One more thing.
[18:52:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> shoot
[18:52:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Let's link directly to the known issues filter...
[18:52:31 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> don't we?
[18:52:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> rather than the wiki page, which only links to the filter. (smile)
[18:52:33 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac checks
[18:52:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&amp;requestId=10063
[18:52:43 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh, on the site page, not the wiki page...
[18:52:46 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, yes
[18:52:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I wondered about that...
[18:53:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> done
[18:53:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Awesome. I think we did it.
[18:54:12 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I've drafted a News item for the site (not published yet)
[18:54:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> "pleased to announce...", the "what's new" list, the "what is infusion" paragraph, and a link to the download page
[18:54:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> reasonable?
[18:54:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Seems good. I'll send you the email I've drafted.
[18:55:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Can you look it over and tell me if you think it's reasonable and not too long?
[18:55:24 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sure, but I'm sure it's fine!
[18:55:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: sent
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[18:56:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> looks good, colinclark, not too long at all
[18:56:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I like the summary of what's new
[18:56:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> do you think the News item should have that summary, or the more detailed list?
[18:57:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Perhaps just the summary.
[18:57:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Since we link them to the page with all the details right away.
[18:57:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, that's what I thought when I saw yours, but just wanted to check
[18:58:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: So, do you think I should send it?
[18:58:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, of course!
[18:58:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> wow, we really did it.
[18:58:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Thanks so much for staying so late to get it out the door.
[18:58:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I really appreciate it.
[18:59:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> no problem - tag team releasing (smile)
[18:59:43 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> remotely, no less!
[19:03:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[19:03:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Thanks again, and have a good night. I'm going to send these out and then get back to my composing.
[19:03:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I have a rehearsal in an hour.
[19:04:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> good luck!