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fluid-work IRC Logs-2007-10-09

fluid-work IRC Logs-2007-10-09

Oct 09, 2007

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[12:38:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> testing fluid bot
[12:40:39 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> anastasiac: looks like the log bot is working. If you have any requests or such with it feel free to send me an email
[12:41:04 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and if you're interested the source for it is here: https://www.ja-sig.org/svn/contrib/ConfluenceIrcLogger/
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[13:16:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> EricDalquist: fabulous! thanks so much for setting this up!
[13:16:57 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> no problem
[13:24:10 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> This is being logged
[13:24:21 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> This logging message which I logging speak being logged is
[13:24:31 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> (smile)
[13:24:40 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah, Hi Eric
[13:24:46 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I was trying to get your IM details off you
[13:24:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hello
[13:24:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah
[13:25:06 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> which IM client(s)?
[13:25:44 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I am trying to send you private message now...
[13:27:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Interesting, perhaps we are not hearing each other?
[13:27:04 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Quite deceptive (smile)
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[13:27:16 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yes
[13:27:43 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you can just email me eric.dalquist at doit.wisc.edu to ask about them
[13:27:48 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ok
[13:28:07 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> part if it is I think you need to be identified with nickserv to be able to do private messaging on freenode
[13:31:49 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So, we are doing some "portal landing page" work at CARET
[13:31:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It would be nice to get some draggy, droppy stuff
[13:32:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Although the timescales don't quite match up
[13:32:11 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Hattie was playing with iGoogle a bit
[13:32:37 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It was a bit deceptive, it looked like you had "free" dragging capability but in fact I believe there were just 3 "hidden" columns
[13:32:51 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So this could probably be dealt with with our "proposed bitmap scheme"
[13:33:24 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so just for my background ... do you have a portal at CARET? What runs it? What is your timeline?
[13:33:33 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah, we are just talking about Sakai
[13:33:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah ok
[13:33:48 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> We are doing some very rapid prototyping to get something knocked up in a couple of weeks, just for a demo
[13:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But naturally want to move it forwards to something a bit more stable in the medium term
[13:34:13 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so yeah the bitmap scheme should work well for that once it is working
[13:34:48 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Right now I am going Spring Web Flow stir-crazy for the while so don't have too much time spare to tinker with it
[13:35:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> fun
[13:46:32 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But just keeping the oar in that we are jolly interested in the multi-reorderer and think it is jolly cool and all that (smile)
[13:47:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that's great to hear
[13:47:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> oh I had a question for you based on some questions anastasiac had for the uPortal folks a few days ago
[13:47:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> And I think it should/will be the basis of some kind of shared portal architecture between Sakai and uPortal...
[13:47:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> fire ahead
[13:47:36 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> how does RSF do URL generation in JSR-268 portlets?
[13:47:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> er JSR-168
[13:48:00 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Well, it calls the PortletResponse methods as normal
[13:48:03 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah yes, I remember now
[13:48:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> This was why I was trying to get into touch with you in the first place (smile)
[13:48:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> she was getting an invalid port number and I wanted to know if it was in issue in uPortal/Pluto or RSF's URL generation
[13:48:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> public String encodeResourceURL(String resourcepath) {
[13:48:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> try {
[13:48:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> // URL resURL = context.getResource("/" + resourcepath);
[13:48:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> String fullpath = request.getContextPath() + "/" + resourcepath;
[13:48:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> return response.encodeURL(fullpath);
[13:48:44 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> }
[13:48:49 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So, we have the following code within RSF
[13:49:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> And it seems that the response.encodeURL() method in this environment (uPortal) is not coming complete with the expected port number
[13:49:25 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ah so these are URLs back to portlet resources ... not back to the portlet class itself
[13:49:29 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> yup
[13:49:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok, that makes much more sense
[13:49:41 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> THe app works fine, it would be a disaster otherwise (tongue)
[13:49:48 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But the URLs rewritten to collateral resources are broken
[13:50:00 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Although actually this must surely also include the URLs to the Javascript to operate the reorderer
[13:50:09 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So this does make me wonder how the app was ever demonstrated...
[13:50:29 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Anastasia said she had seen the problem on CSS and image URLs
[13:50:35 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I'm wondering if tomcat isn't being notified correctly of the fronting apache port
[13:50:37 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But all kinds of resource URls come through this path....
[13:50:47 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes, it could well be something like that
[13:50:50 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> could some of the URIs just be rendered relative?
[13:51:00 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> RSF actually never renders relative URLs
[13:51:06 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It's sort of a pet obsession/deficiency (tongue)
[13:51:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It would be much better if at least it had the option to, but I never yet got round to implementing it....
[13:51:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that's fine ... just speculating (smile)
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