fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-10-30

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[10:39:20 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Justin is King! Trunk is frozen!' set by michelled on 2008-10-30 10:39:20 EDT(-0400)
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[10:48:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jacobfarber1: I made a branch for uploader 2 work during the code freeze
[10:48:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/components/branches/FLUID-1083/
[10:48:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm going to remove uploader 2 from trunk now
[10:50:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so if you want to work on the uploader 2 spring board you'll need to check out the branch and work there
[10:50:18 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> colinclark will merge the branch back into trunk once the beta is cut tomorrow
[10:52:55 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> thanks
[10:54:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> going to do a quick rebuild of the build site
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[11:13:46 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o - I just removed the uploader 2 tests and css
[11:13:55 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> you may want to rebuild again
[11:14:00 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay....
[11:14:11 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Rebuilding the daily build site
[11:17:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> the uploader samples still seem to be working
[11:19:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks!
[11:19:56 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> links to the renderer examples:
[11:19:58 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/sample-code/renderer/data-binding/menu.html
[11:20:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/sample-code/renderer/id-based/inventory.html
[11:20:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/sample-code/renderer/id-based/inventory.html
[11:20:42 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac should have more faith in michelled
[11:21:15 EDT(-0400)] * michelled knows she's slow
[11:21:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/sample-code/renderer/selector-based/inventory.html
[11:21:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac, are those all the examples?
[11:21:34 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o ^
[11:21:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, there are three of them
[11:22:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the two inventory ones look almost identical, but aren;t
[11:22:09 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the data-binding menu is the more complicated one
[11:22:30 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay... i'll do a quick test of those
[11:26:19 EDT(-0400)] * michelled is listening to anastasiac and Justin_o discovering cross browser issues with the renderer
[11:28:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Ok, so here's a summary of the Renderer OS/Browser testing:
[11:28:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the renderer does NOT work in IE6, IE7 or Opera (neither Windows nor Mac)
[11:29:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the renderer DOES work fine in FF2, FF3 and Safari (both Windows and Mac)
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[11:31:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> good morning ecochran
[11:32:10 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I made a branch for uploader 2 and moved it out of trunk
[11:32:16 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> g'mornin' michelled
[11:32:18 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> thanks
[11:32:21 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so you can continue to work on it but you need to work in the branch
[11:32:23 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> np
[11:33:13 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> my plan is to do testing and linting for the release for the next couple of days
[11:33:40 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> unfortunately linting doesn't fall under code freeze guidelines (sad)
[11:33:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> only changes to comments
[11:33:56 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ah, we did linting last time
[11:34:11 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: i think that was in bug parade time
[11:34:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> right, during code chill
[11:34:31 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> OK
[11:35:02 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> well, we didn't really have a code chill this time, or if we did, I was too heads down with Uploader to notice
[11:35:14 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> no we didn't do one
[11:35:24 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I've created a JIRA for the renderer cross-browser issue: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1741
[11:35:31 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> so, it's just testing for me
[11:35:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: for testing you may want to check with jacobfarber and Gonzalo to see if they need help with their tasks or start the low priority list
[11:35:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we haven't done bug parades for the betas before
[11:35:48 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
[11:36:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so the beta features are looking like this:
[11:36:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> 1. inline edit + reorderer bug fixes
[11:36:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> 2. renderer examples that work in Firefox and Safari
[11:36:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> 3. skinning examples
[11:36:56 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> am I missing anything?
[11:47:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled, it doesn't look to me like you're missing anything
[11:52:05 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Justin_o are the QA test supposed to work exactly the same on all protocol urls?
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[12:01:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> um... which one is different
[12:01:53 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> just curious if the tests account for different implementations
[12:02:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I think only inline edit has a different implementation
[12:02:40 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> right, so its ok if one of the test requirements fail, simply b/c its not univerally implemented, right?
[12:02:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> and they should actually be pretty close now... the difference being that the text doesn't highlight when you activate inline edit. This actually should be happening now
[12:02:51 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> thats the one
[12:03:11 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> sakai doesnt hilite on click
[12:03:24 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm not sure if there is a bug for that yet... i can't remember i'll file it if i don't find it as I'm loooking through the jira's
[12:03:42 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> one more thing
[12:03:47 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Daphne was saying that it should be highlighted now, it only wasn't because there weren't undo/redo buttons
[12:03:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay..
[12:04:09 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> have you noticed in Opera the text cursor jumps to the beginning on click?
[12:05:13 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> hmm... no i didn't notice that... that should be a bug
[12:07:05 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ok
[12:07:16 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks
[12:09:11 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> one more thing (tongue)
[12:09:19 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> sure
[12:09:27 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> is tabbing known to be broken in Opera?
[12:09:44 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> im trying to hit the undo/redo button with the keyboard...
[12:09:55 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> not happening (sad)
[12:11:21 EDT(-0400)] * michelled is wishing selecting something on the data-binding renderer example would result in the product appearing on her desk
[12:11:26 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> are you on the bspace page
[12:11:32 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> sakai again
[12:12:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'm trying to remember... i know it was an issue if bspace... not sure if there was a bug specifically for the annoucements page, although it is probably the same issue... you may want to comment on that one
[12:16:13 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ok, i;ll create a jira for it
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[12:40:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1744 has been identified as a blocker to the 0.6beta and can be committed against
[12:40:57 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thanks, Justin_o
[12:42:30 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> I need to pick the brains of some developers.
[12:42:33 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> (smile)
[12:42:43 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> (It's Halloween afterall!)
[12:44:14 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> not quite yet jonathan_h but go ahead anyway (smile)
[12:44:33 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> I have a HTML list that looks like this: <ul class="tips"><li>....</li></ul>
[12:44:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac, the comments in the javascript file related to the selector based example mentions rsf:ids
[12:44:50 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> I want to make lists of class "tips" collapsible.
[12:45:03 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> and expandable.
[12:45:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled, thanks for catching that. In this case, I think it's ok to mention them, because it's in the context of the fact that they are implied
[12:45:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> was that not clear from your reading?
[12:46:17 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> no, but I read it quickly - let me look again
[12:46:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jon: sounds like an accordian? jquery UI ships one but it's not accessible yet
[12:47:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> or if you just want to simply hide and show the lists you can do that with 'display:none' or jQuery's 'hide' and 'show'
[12:47:56 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> where are you trying to do this?
[12:47:56 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Just looked that up... it's a possibility.
[12:48:03 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Too bad about it not being accessible.
[12:48:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> well, we're working on it
[12:48:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it's actually been amazing how the jquery UI community is picking up the a11y work
[12:48:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it will be accessible for 1.8 for sure but likely before that
[12:49:21 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> ok.
[12:49:25 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Thanks!
[12:50:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac: yes, I see now where you explain that it's implied
[12:50:48 EDT(-0400)] * michelled should read more carefully
[12:51:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, cool. Let me know when you've finished your review.
[12:52:23 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok
[13:02:49 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> standup?
[13:02:49 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> stand-up
[13:03:01 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> (in stereo!)
[13:03:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> oops - coming
[13:03:49 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> your mic is on Eli
[13:17:28 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o: anastasiac fixed 1744 and I reviewed the fix and closed the bug
[13:17:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay... thank you
[13:21:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Just a reminder to everyone, we are in code freeze right now. Committs are only allowed for comments and against blockers
[13:21:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Coding+and+Commit+Standards
[13:22:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and it's only blockers that Justin okays
[13:23:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> this is so that we have a good stable build to test
[13:26:41 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so, it get a fix in at this point, create a JIRA, discuss the issue with QA lead (aka King). Once it's agreed that it's a blocker for release, make the JIRA a blocker, commit a fix, have it reviewed by someone else and let the King know.
[13:26:48 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> does that seem about right Justin_o?
[13:27:21 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> michelled: there are a bunch of Uploader bugs that are fixed but that I didn't have a chance to update in JIRA
[13:27:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> fixed in uploader 1?
[13:27:45 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> should I close them now or wait until after the release when we can test them
[13:27:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: that seems right
[13:27:51 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> no, Uploader 2
[13:28:14 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> uploader 1 had no changes in this iteration... at least I hope it didn't
[13:28:22 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> if you know their fixed you could resolve them now with the 'fix for' as 0.6
[13:28:42 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> that makes sense
[13:30:35 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran, anastasiac: if you are looking for testing the springboards still need to be tested
[13:31:13 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Justin_o: I'm looking at the Uploader API doc at the moment, I'll take a look at the Springboard list after that
[13:31:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: thanks...
[13:33:07 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> anastasiac and michelled : I'm making one small edit to the Uploader API, Jacob's research this last week reminded me that we have one un-used selector documented and I might as well point out that it is not used in the code
[13:33:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it's not used for uploader 1?
[13:33:37 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Nope
[13:33:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> go for it - thanks (smile)
[13:33:58 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> the element that it referred to was removed a while back
[13:34:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> all wiki help is appreciated - our docs are getting left behind (sad)
[13:34:53 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ah, we should also make sure that we mention the Flash 10 problem... I think that we do somewhere but now Flash 10 is in the wild so I'd like to look at what we say and where we say it
[13:39:13 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> michelled, Justin_o : I'm making a change to the README.txt file to update the Flash 10 situation. Should I write up a JIRA, do we have a JIRA for the ReadMe?
[13:39:52 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we usually have a single JIRA that we can commit against for comments and readme stuff during freeze
[13:39:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I don't know if one was created yet
[13:40:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> does anyone know?
[13:40:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i haven't created one for it
[13:40:11 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i don't think i saw one either
[13:40:28 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'll make one in a minute... just writing up another jira at the moment
[13:40:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks
[13:42:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I created one for packaging up the release: 1749
[13:44:39 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Anyone want to give me a quick review:
[13:44:40 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> * Uploader: The Uploader is currently NOT COMPATIBLE with Flash 10 (released on 9/26/2008). This
[13:44:40 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> bug is caused by a change in Adobe's security protocols for Flash 10, which block the SWFUpload
[13:44:40 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> code from calling the OS File browser. The SWFUpload community is still implementing a fix based
[13:44:41 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> overlaying a transparent Flash overlay over our Browse File button. The Uploader in Fluid 0.6
[13:44:41 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> will include this fix, our a fix of our own.
[13:45:06 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> sorry, I can see my own typos
[13:45:09 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ignore for now
[13:46:16 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> better now:
[13:46:18 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> * Uploader: The Uploader is currently NOT COMPATIBLE with Flash 10 (released on 9/26/2008). This bug is caused by a change in Adobe's security protocols for Flash 10, which block the SWFUpload code from calling the OS File browser. The SWFUpload community is still implementing a fix based overlaying a transparent Flash object over the HTML Browse button. The Uploader in Fluid 0.6 will include this fix, or a fix of our own.
[13:48:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> looks good eli
[13:48:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> one typo "fix based on overlaying"
[13:48:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> is I think what you meant
[13:49:12 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ecochran ^
[13:49:12 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> thx! yes!
[13:49:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> np
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[13:53:07 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Justin_o is FLUID-1748 fixable immediately?
[13:53:27 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jacobfarber1: is wondering whether or not a fix for FLUID-1748 should be allowed
[13:53:40 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1748
[13:53:52 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ok
[13:54:26 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm not sure... are there any compelling arguments that we shouldn't wait till after release
[13:55:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jacobfarber1: you could always post a patch for it and commit it after the beta is bundled on Friday
[13:55:44 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> (smile)
[13:55:50 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> sure thing
[13:56:03 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> What is your fix, Jacob?
[13:56:09 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> i dont have one (tongue)
[13:56:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I see
[13:56:21 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Then why are you wondering whether it should be allowed? (tongue)
[13:56:21 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> i was just wondering whether or not we should focus on it
[13:56:25 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ^
[13:56:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I don't think so
[13:56:33 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> We have so many more serious issues in the list (tongue)
[13:56:54 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Justin_o: do you have a link to the latest bug parade?
[13:57:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jacobfarber1: we don't have a bug parade going right now.
[13:57:35 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we are in the full freeze mode
[13:57:46 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ok
[13:58:00 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> FLUID-1748 will be tough
[13:58:09 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It is something JQuery UI draggable should be doing for us automatically
[13:58:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But I notice it often fails
[13:58:17 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It has always failed on Opera, for as tart
[13:58:17 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> thats what I thought
[13:59:01 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> agh, I made a mistake
[13:59:14 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> btw, your message says "Cannot place about locked portlet"
[13:59:15 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> when I saw a bug commited to me, I sent in a fix
[13:59:26 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> shouldnt have done that (sad)
[13:59:46 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Bosmon - ?
[13:59:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It says, about, rather than, "above"
[14:00:08 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> don't worry about it jacobfarber1, Justin_o discussed it with anastasiac and me
[14:00:12 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> just copied and pasted from the previous versions message
[14:00:23 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> michelled ok, phew!
[14:00:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we reviewed your commit and Justin_o said it was fine to ship with it
[14:02:56 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: just saw what you are talking about.. that probably should be fixed... I'm going to make a blocker jira for that one
[14:03:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jacobfarber1: i'll send you a bug to look at for that
[14:03:50 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> shoot
[14:05:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1752 has been identified as a blocker to the 0.6beta and can be committed against
[14:05:54 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Justin_o does this require anything but a simple commit?
[14:05:58 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ok
[14:07:01 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> if it's risky you should do a patch, if it is something simple that won't likely affect anything else then you can just committ but you have to get it reviewed still
[14:07:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jacobfarber1: ^
[14:07:43 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> although, isnt this whole locked portlet thing not just ABOVE portlets but below them too? Or does that not matter?
[14:08:07 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> shouldnt it say NEAR instead?
[14:09:17 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> you can drop portlets below it... you see it at the bottom of the column as well (when keyboard reordering) because it is trying to wrap it to the top and place it above
[14:19:34 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> so if a locked portlet is at the end of a column, you can place it below?
[14:19:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> locked portlets are only supposed to be at the top
[14:20:05 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> supposed to be?
[14:20:19 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> but they can technically go anywhere...
[14:21:00 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm not sure what the technical limitations are... the design was only for them to be at the top... i believe that's what Gary was saying... you might want to double check with Bosmon thought
[14:22:52 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> i'll just change it for now...we can review it in depth later, I guess
[14:23:12 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yep... that makes sense
[14:23:23 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> probably have to talk to Bosmon and some designers
[14:24:27 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> for sure
[14:24:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm going through the JIRAs that are fix for 0.6 beta1
[14:24:52 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> there are some that could still be worked on because they are documentation related
[14:25:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> jacobfarber, Justin_o: Functionally, the prohbition is currently limited specifically to being before the locked portlet
[14:25:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> such as http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1117
[14:25:24 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> During the refactoring of the reorderer, we "lost" the functionality to implement locking at other than the top of a column
[14:25:36 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ah, memories (tongue)
[14:25:41 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: thanks for the clear up on that
[14:25:57 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens342f> btw. maximum cheers for having documentation with actually usable tutorials
[14:26:13 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> those props go to anastasiac (smile)
[14:26:17 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah, the bliss of having a TEAM
[14:26:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> (tongue)
[14:26:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Regarding FLUID-1117: This documentation was started at http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Undo+Functionality
[14:26:24 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> but it still needs more work
[14:26:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> which required either an understanding of how Undo works, or a desire to learn how Undo works (smile)
[14:28:07 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sgithens342f: anastasiac has been working on some renderer examples - I know you are using the renderer
[14:28:23 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> if you come across stuff you think would be useful in the examples can you throw them our way?
[14:28:33 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Nakuls email about stale sites is one of the funniest i've seen from an admin in a long time (smile)
[14:28:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, please do!
[14:37:21 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I reviewed and closed 1752
[14:37:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thank you
[14:37:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm going to rebuild the daily build site now
[14:38:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so, any takers for undo docs?
[14:38:21 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens342f> michelled: oh cool. Actually at the moment I'm reading about the fluid.reorderList and wondering if I should switch this page I'm working on from jQuery.sortable to that
[14:38:59 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens342f> I didn't write the initial version, but it needs some reworking, so I'd be best to do it now if it's worth it
[14:39:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I can tell you that Bosmon's replacement for jquery ui's draggable is considerably faster
[14:39:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> you'd also get keyboard support
[14:41:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> reopened http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1744 as a blocker to be comitted against again
[14:41:22 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens342f> it looks pretty easy to swap out, but I'm still looking for the equivalent of the sortable.serialize to get the new order of the things
[14:42:06 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens342f> I'm guessing it should be easy to find out from the examples though
[14:43:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I don't actually know if we have that feature
[14:43:38 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I guess you could just look at the dom
[14:43:47 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> there is a callback when the order changes too
[14:44:11 EDT(-0400)] <sgithens342f> oh, so you have to keep track of the positions
[14:44:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, I just submitted a fix for FLUID-1744 (again)
[14:44:41 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
[14:44:45 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac didn't test thoroughly enought
[14:44:54 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: do you mind review anastasiac's commit
[14:46:18 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o: done
[14:46:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> this time I even tested
[14:46:33 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thank you... (tongue)
[14:46:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm going to rebuild now
[15:06:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac: do you think http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1695 can be closed now?
[15:07:19 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled: done
[15:07:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks
[15:07:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> or at lease, I resolved it. perhaps you could close, if you concur?
[15:15:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jacobfarber1: is the status of this issue still correct? http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1439
[15:16:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ecochran: was any work done on this? http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1431
[15:18:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-518 status?
[15:19:30 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> michelled hmmmm
[15:19:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled: 518 is still incomplete, and should be moved to 0.6
[15:19:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> k
[15:20:55 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> michelled i will be honest with you: after that discussion with Antranig, I never looked at this list
[15:21:41 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> and I dont know why FLUID-132 is in that list....
[15:22:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm going to change the fix version to unknown
[15:22:55 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> feel free to reorganize the issues as you see fit
[15:23:00 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ok
[15:27:19 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o: do you know if this is still a bug? http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1329
[15:27:55 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anyone know the status of i18n for the renderer?
[15:27:56 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> it is still the case for opera
[15:28:02 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jacob just filed another bug
[15:28:11 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> yes, just saw
[15:28:14 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> oh, so should this one be closed then?
[15:28:21 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> 1758, right?
[15:28:23 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yes... i'll get rid of it
[15:28:27 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yes... 1758
[15:28:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks
[15:28:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> np
[15:30:28 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> actually that one is filed against Mac OS 10.4 so it may still be an issue
[15:30:46 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok
[15:33:10 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac, Bosmon, ecochran, jacobfarber1 just a reminder that if you added any new files since 0.5 please check that they have the appropriate copyright and license.
[15:33:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> if you need to commit license files or comment changes you can commit against 1749
[15:33:46 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Justin_o: im confused about the Duplicate change
[15:33:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> right! and also, remember to ensure that the properties file in the build scripts folder includes the files!!
[15:34:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> otherwise, they won't be included in Fluid-all.js
[15:34:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> build scripts are committable against since they aren't bundled.
[15:34:48 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> michelled was that whole thing about fluid.reset.css before or after 0.5?
[15:34:55 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> and the yui license
[15:35:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes - changes to the build scripts should also be committed agains 1749
[15:35:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think it was in 0.5
[15:35:17 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ok, so its taken care of?
[15:36:13 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jacobfarber1: thanks... i closed the wrong jira... (sad)
[15:36:20 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> (tongue)
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[15:49:07 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: is http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1643 still an issue... not sure that has been asked already
[15:50:41 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: is http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1640 still an issue
[15:52:35 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes
[15:52:47 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thank you
[15:52:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> np
[15:53:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o: how are we looking for release?
[15:53:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I think we're okay
[15:54:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm just going through the jira's now...
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[16:12:53 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Justin_o: Sorry I was out. I'll look at that path ASAP
[16:13:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: thanks
[16:18:12 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Justin_o: thanks for pointing that file out. I had forgotten that it was yet another instance of the Flash 10 info. Are you OK with changes to that README? And should I use that JIRA for the changes (FLUID-1643)
[16:18:48 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> just going to look into that quickly... i think there is a new jira.. but one seconds
[16:20:24 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: it should be fine, but committ against FLUID-1749 as well
[16:20:42 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> cool, editing now
[16:21:16 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks
[16:21:50 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jacobfarber1: can you check if FLUID-1617 is still an issue... i don't seem to see the bug any more
[16:23:37 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> michelled: may I ask you a terminology questions (anyone else can chime in)
[16:23:39 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ?
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[16:35:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ecochran: I'm back
[16:35:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ask away (smile)
[16:35:30 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Justin_o is there somewhere to test this against?
[16:35:42 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> My question is, in our code for the following statement:
[16:35:44 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> var settings = {
[16:35:45 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> uploadUrl : "",
[16:35:45 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> flashUrl : "../../../fluid-components/swfupload/swfupload_f9.swf"
[16:36:05 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> the uploadURL should be called a what? setting, parameter, variable?
[16:36:37 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I'm trying to say, "the uploadURL blah needs to be ..."
[16:36:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'm not really sure what you want to test
[16:37:28 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac is probably the best person to answer that. I think I'd say setting
[16:37:43 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> 1617
[16:37:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran, anastasiac: "option?"
[16:37:52 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> anastasiac: ^, help me!?!
[16:38:01 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran and jacobfarber1: sorry i was getting your comments mixed together
[16:38:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> personally, eochran, I go with either setting or option
[16:38:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> option is the term we've been using elsewhere
[16:38:13 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> option sound good
[16:38:18 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> thanks
[16:38:23 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> Justin_o i'm trying to verify your comment about 1617
[16:38:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jacobfarber1: i believe it was in your springboard example
[16:38:55 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> ok
[16:42:31 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> looks good
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[16:42:44 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay... i'll close it.. thanks
[16:43:04 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber1> np
[16:45:26 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I've checked in a new sample-code/uploader/ReadMe.txt, if someone could review
[16:46:01 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: is this still an issue http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1404
[16:46:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> hahaha
[16:46:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Is Bosmon around?
[16:46:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Given Jacob's recent experience with it, I'd say it's definitely still an issue.
[16:52:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: Your ReadMe.txt looks just fine. Thumbs up.
[16:53:03 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Thanks boss!
[16:53:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[16:53:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: thanks.
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