fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-04-29

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[09:43:03 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> colinclark: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Infusion has nothing on it.
[09:43:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurelw: Yes, that was my point.
[09:43:22 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> am I misundertanding you?
[09:43:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> "Back to the drawing board."
[09:43:36 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> laurelw: i'm all over that
[09:43:47 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> oh, ok, you said "working" - I assumed working on it, not will be working on it
[09:44:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> mbibfabm
[09:44:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oops
[09:44:57 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> will provide feedback when there is something to provide feedback on
[09:45:00 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac has a big bandaid on her finger
[09:45:11 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasia needs a coffee?
[09:45:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> that is likely
[09:45:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurelw: Well, moving content from one page to another counts as work, doesn't it?
[09:46:37 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> hmm
[09:47:02 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> perhaps only if you move one character at a time <grin>
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[10:22:28 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> colinclark: didn't get a chance to ask you yesterday - any thoughts about using an existing ant front end tool instead of building our own?
[10:24:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurelw: Do you have any in mind?
[10:29:12 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> colinclark: none I've used...I just searched around and looked at some.
[10:29:23 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> Hudson seemed promising
[10:29:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I can't quite imagine how any existing front end would know about the structure of our build systme.
[10:29:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So we use ant to run builds, but the semantics of our build are custom.
[10:30:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> In other words, the UI for our build system will be responsible for presenting the various modules available in Infusion to our users, and then invoking Ant to produce a build.
[10:30:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I assume most Ant front ends are good for invoking different targets of an Ant build script.
[10:30:56 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> which is what I thought we were doing.
[10:31:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But in our case, it's really just one target with a variable set of parameters.
[10:31:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And it's the parameters that are of interest here.
[10:31:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Does that make sense?
[10:31:20 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> ok...that does make sense
[10:31:50 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> i have to look at the custom build parameters a bit more to understand I think
[10:32:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll send you some links...
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[10:33:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> The dependency management part of our build system is custom code written in JavaScript, that we invoke using an Ant target. Here's the code: https://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/trunk/build-scripts/build.js
[10:34:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And to invoke a custom build, the parameters to Ant might look something like this:
[10:34:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ant customBuild -Dinclude="uiOptions, inlineEdit" -Dexclude="jQuery"
[10:34:45 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> i'm familiar with using the custom build
[10:36:34 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> you might have to provide a 'gzillion' build options in an existing front end to cover the custom build options.
[10:36:44 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> which would probably be pretty inconvenient
[10:39:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurelw: Right, so the idea would be that we present a list of all the modules in Infusion in a user friendly way.
[10:39:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> A browser box or something similar.
[10:39:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Perhaps something nice with good icons denoting each module.
[10:39:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And the users can select whatever they want from a range of these.
[10:39:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Producing their own custom build.
[10:41:10 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> very helpful. thanks for taking the time to help me think about this
[10:41:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> No problem.
[10:41:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It's exciting stuff.
[10:41:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think fj4000 has been sketching out ideas for what the UI would look like, but he's been heads down with graphics for the past couple of days so we haven't had a chance to talk about it.
[10:42:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Once that's done, you two can check in about that.
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[11:32:19 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, jonathan is going to add those caveats to the inline edit integration tutorials
[11:32:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
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[13:43:08 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> In some portlets in uPortal 3.1, when we drag them, we get 'tagName' is null or not an object and it refers to line 4349 in fluid-all-0.8.js – I've pastebined a snippet of the lines here http://fluid.pastebin.com/m5569805c . It happens in IE6 and IE7.
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[14:03:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> dstn, thanks for this information
[14:03:42 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm looking into where this is happening
[14:04:07 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> dstn: were you able to resolve the issue that you were experiencing the other day
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[14:19:22 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> sorry, got pulled away again
[14:19:56 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> So yes, I was able to resolve the problem yesterday but maybe not in the optimal way
[14:20:20 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> oddly, it had to do with the stylesheet references, even though they were relative
[14:20:49 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> it doesn't quite make sense either since, the page loads them and parses them and does not pop up a mixed content warning
[14:21:20 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> but when you drag the portlet, its like the browser is trying to fetch the resources again
[14:21:58 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> the solution was to put the stylesheets on our main static serving server and give full paths to them
[14:25:02 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> As for the problem with the 'tagName' issue, the portlets end up in the footer area after you left go of the drag
[14:27:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is it when you drag them into any particular location? or particular portlets?
[14:28:58 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> dstn can you send me a url again
[14:30:03 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> no, no particular portlets or location, its right when you start drag, the tagName error pops up and I let go of the mouse button and its in the footer
[14:30:13 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> Justin_o, sure
[14:31:31 EDT(-0400)] <dstn> I should mention, the portlets don't stay in the footer but I can't move them for the time being. If I switch to another tab and back, they're in columns again.
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