fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-06-25

[09:51:48 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1, anastasiac: can we have a check in before stand up?

[09:51:58 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: sure !

[09:52:13 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I was going to request a check-in today

[09:52:31 CDT(-0500)] <michelled>

[09:52:37 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> how's 11?

[10:53:12 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac, alexn: I've updated the iteration plan page. Now I'll start knocking off all the reviews you've asked for

[10:53:20 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks, michelled

[10:53:34 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> sounds good

[11:18:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: 608 is fine - please do your pull request

[11:19:09 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> k, thanks michelled

[12:05:56 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura: any comments on suggested change in plan ?

[12:08:33 CDT(-0500)] <yura> logiclord: sorry i was about to take a look at the code and your questions

[12:09:33 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura: just ping when you are available

[12:09:39 CDT(-0500)] <yura> logiclord: sure thing

[12:54:23 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> Morning, jhung.

[12:54:33 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> hey asteig. How's it going?

[12:54:42 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Good, yourself?

[12:55:04 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, afternoon lunch coma, but otherwise doing well.

[12:55:22 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, justin_o is away today so maybe we can chat tomorrow?

[12:55:23 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Made a huge commit on github, but it is very messy.

[12:55:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, yeah I noticed.

[12:55:42 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: I didn't run jsLint on it BUT I did go to a Douglas Crockford talk about it.

[12:55:45 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I just cloned it about 5 minutes ago.

[12:56:00 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> haha asteig, excellent!

[12:56:11 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> no worries about it being messy.

[12:56:14 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Yeah, it was fun. Met Crockford and won a free book.

[12:56:25 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, cool!

[12:56:45 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: I don't know if it's on my super official list or whatever, but this week I'm adding clean-up to my todo.

[12:57:27 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig: sure. That sounds good. This way we can see how things are going without tripping over stuff.

[12:57:39 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Exactly.

[12:58:49 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> A question for you though asteig. Is ImageAdjuster.html supposed to do anything at the moment?

[12:59:11 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: uh, if I committed it correctly.

[12:59:25 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: I think I might have forgotten to add the javascript, which could be problematic? Haha

[12:59:39 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: But yes, rotation should be functional, except for the plus/minus buttons. :-p

[13:00:15 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: I just copied it over from the test html.

[13:00:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> haha okay. Let me know when everything is committed so I can take a peek.

[13:00:25 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Will do.

[13:00:44 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Definitely learned a lot this week!

[13:00:58 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Good to hear asteig.

[13:01:13 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: So I've been browsing different components trying to pick up on best practices, conventions, etc. Are there any components you feel are a good example for these sort of things?

[13:02:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> that's an excellent question asteig, and I think others are better qualified than me since they are likely more familiar with the code base. anastasiac, michelled, colinclark: any thoughts?

[13:04:42 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> asteig, jhung, that's a good question

[13:04:53 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> there probably are some components that are better examples than others

[13:05:16 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, perhaps you can say what exactly you're hoping to find?

[13:05:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> some of the components have not yet been updated to use the latest and greatest IoC infrastructure

[13:06:02 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: The extra special warm fuzzy feeling that comes from good software design?

[13:06:13 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ^lol

[13:07:35 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, I'm looking on our wiki now for a guide. I think there was something written.

[13:07:57 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> asteig, the one component that is probably the most "up-to-date" in terms of its use of the latest and greatest framework features is UI Options, but it's also probably the most complicated, and the most difficult to understand looking at the code

[13:08:28 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> Thanks, anastasiac. I will take a look and see what I can discover.

[13:09:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> asteig, colinclark and/or michelled might have other insights

[13:09:45 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Justin_o has also written some new components for Decapod that may be a bit simpler. Not sure if he'd recommend them as examples to follow because he's always talking about refactoring them. lol

[13:09:49 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ^ ateig

[13:09:53 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ^asteig rather

[13:10:17 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yura: where is your repo with the ioc example we made in your last workshop?

[13:10:24 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I bet that would be a good one to follow

[13:10:30 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> it was a calculator, wasn't it?

[13:11:00 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> let me find you a link asteig.

[13:12:06 CDT(-0500)] <yura> michelled: i think you mean cspace one ?

[13:12:33 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yura: I was thinking of the one you did at the community meeting where we did TDD

[13:12:44 CDT(-0500)] <yura> oh ok let me see

[13:12:50 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yura: but if the cspace one can be used without the cspace context that would be fine too

[13:13:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh hi

[13:13:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> what insights might I have?

[13:14:01 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> Hi colinclark

[13:14:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> asteig: So you met Crockford?

[13:14:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I talked with him once and he was very nice

[13:14:26 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> colinclark: Yeah, he is super nice. <3 him

[13:14:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> he can be very cranky on Github

[13:14:50 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> colinclark: Bwuhahaha, he ended his power point with a slide consisting solely of a semicolon.

[13:15:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> +1 for semicolons

[13:15:33 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, you may want to look around here: http://code.google.com/p/decapod/source/browse/?repo=ui under Components VisSwitcher may be a good place to start, although justin_o will probably tell you not to look at it. I think he secretly wants to refector the whole component into oblivion.

[13:15:35 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> colinclark: This is the second talk of his I went to recently. They're always very nice. It was on the psychology of programming and logic vs. hints, and how programmers are all essentially crazy for wanting to program things.

[13:16:02 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Alright, thanks so much! I'm excited to look at these examples.

[13:16:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> asteig: Justin_o and I did a workshop a year ago about HTML5

[13:16:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and in it, I made a simplified Uploader component

[13:17:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it might be another place to see clearer examples of Infusion components and how they're structured

[13:17:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Assuming that's what you were looking fo

[13:17:33 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> colinclark: That's exactly what I'm looking for!

[13:17:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> let me dig up the URL

[13:18:04 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I have a branch ready for review for FLOE-22: https://github.com/acheetham/OER-Commons/tree/FLOE-22

[13:20:16 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx anastasiac

[13:21:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, the Iteration page lists "FLOE-24 Authoring pages have a gap at the top when ToC is on " as an issue, but FLOE-24 is not about a ToC gap, it's about "UIO table of contents should left-aligned with main content". Would you know if the iteration page has the wrong description, or the wrong jura number? There is an old FLUID issue that is vaguely related to a gap when using ToC, but...

[13:22:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> asteig: https://github.com/jobara/workshops/tree/master/examples/html5-uploader

[13:22:49 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: I think FLOE-24 was supposed to be about table of contents in general but hasn't been kept up to date or titled well

[13:22:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It's quite old, so no guarantees it still works, but it should be good as a starting point

[13:23:03 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> colinclark: Wonderful! Thanks!

[13:23:05 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: maybe you can fix up the JIRA?

[13:23:24 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, ok, I'll do some testing on the ToC and update the JIRA with the latest status.

[13:23:38 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: I know of two issues related to toc right now - the gap on the authoring page and the fact that 'TABLE OF CONTENTS' shows up even when it's off

[13:23:55 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, michelled

[13:24:04 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> it's on my list to update that JIRA but you know how my list goes.

[13:24:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, michelled, regarding FLOE-22: should I be issuing pull requests agains a11y-uio, instead of just pinging you?

[13:24:40 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> asteig, so if you want, drop by the channel tomorrow when Justin_o is around. Maybe we can chat again then?

[13:25:08 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: no - it's confusing for andrey and sergey if you issue pull requests

[13:25:27 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac, alexn: please just let me know in here that something needs to be reviewed and update the iteration plan page

[13:26:07 CDT(-0500)] <yura> michelled: https://github.com/yzen/TDD-Framework-example and https://github.com/yzen/CSPACE-UI-Workshop

[13:26:31 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> asteig: you could take a look at those two also ^

[13:26:41 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> Okay, jhung.

[13:26:46 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> Thanks, michelled!

[13:27:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> np, thx yura

[13:27:45 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> jhung: Anything else we need to go over? I want to get to the Hacker Dojo so I can start knocking out some code.

[13:28:28 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Sure go ahead asteig. We can chat again.

[13:28:39 CDT(-0500)] <asteig> Cool, thanks everyone for your help! Seeya later.

[13:28:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> later

[13:28:53 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> gud night everyone .. bye

[13:29:10 CDT(-0500)] <yura> logiclord: see ya, ill reply to your email by the end of the day

[13:29:45 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura okay ... I might we awake by then

[13:29:50 CDT(-0500)] <yura> haha

[13:33:38 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> michelled: could you please review my https://github.com/anvk/OER-Commons/tree/OER-616 and https://github.com/anvk/OER-Commons/tree/OER-616567 branches. thanks

[13:34:03 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> https://github.com/anvk/OER-Commons/tree/OER-616567 second link

[13:34:12 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sure alexn

[13:34:32 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> and on my third attempt to copy paste a link into Adium https://github.com/anvk/OER-Commons/tree/OER-567

[13:34:49 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> finally. great success

[13:45:45 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> michelled: it looks like keyboard focus color should change in different high contrast themes. it is a pretty big css change, I will create a separate JIRA for it and put it on the FLOE Iteration plan

[13:47:04 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sounds good alexn - thx

[13:59:55 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: I just commented on 566 with my findings

[14:00:08 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks, michelled

[14:00:14 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: I tested using Voice Over and Safari

[14:11:16 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I've issued a pull request for infusion for the Table of Contents header issue: https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/224

[14:11:38 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx anastasiac

[14:14:56 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: I put a comment on FLOE-22

[14:16:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> oh, good catch, michelled. I totally forgot about that. I'll fix it

[14:16:21 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thanks! everything else looks great

[14:31:17 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn: do you have a 567 branch that applies to master?

[14:54:11 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> michelled: nope. only to staging. We usually test on staging and then if everything works - move it to master

[14:54:18 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> michelled: do I need to move it to master ?

[14:54:38 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn: it's just that staging isn't working at the moment in my local - is it working for you?

[14:54:57 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> yeah, last time it worked fine for me

[14:55:09 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> last time I checked everything was working fine

[14:55:27 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> can you show me 567 working please?

[15:11:23 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: I commented on your pull request to infusion

[15:11:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks, michelled

[15:12:34 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> np