fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-12-02

[10:05:58 CST(-0600)] <clown> colinclark: FYI I found a better way to increase the screen size of the virtual machine …

[10:06:06 CST(-0600)] <clown> From VB's "View" menu, do not check "full screen mode", but select "auto resize guest display". Then grab the corner of the Mac window displaying the vm and size to anything you want.

[10:06:10 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> ah, yes

[10:06:27 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> That's pretty cool

[10:06:36 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> VirtualBox increasingly impresses me, I have toe ay

[10:06:40 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> say

[14:12:29 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindyli1, the new 'excerpt' code is great

[14:12:49 CST(-0600)] <cindyli1> great

[14:12:56 CST(-0600)] <cindyli1> :-P

[14:58:10 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli1, anastasiac: anastasiac's branch has been merged into development and pushed up now

[14:59:12 CST(-0600)] <cindyli1> thanks

[15:16:18 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> fyi, michelled and anastasiac, the issue Johnny was finding with his version of FSSFive has nothing to do with our pull request

[15:16:21 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> or anything else noteworthy

[15:16:31 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> He said it worked locally but not when deployed on the server

[15:17:16 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I found the wrong case for a filename--Mac OS X is case insensitive, whereas most of the UNIX file systems are case sensitive.

[15:18:32 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> But one thing I did come across which might be noteworthy to you all, anastasiac, cindyli1, and michelled, is that FSSFive's version of Infusion was a little heavier weight than necessary

[15:18:42 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> including individual JS files, etc.

[15:18:46 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and extra themes

[15:18:49 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> easy to trip down

[15:19:30 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> but I believe you'll have to modify FatPanelUIOptionsFrame.html to link to MyInfusion.js instead of the individual files

[15:19:46 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> which should, as yura can attest, improve performance at least by a bit

[15:20:17 CST(-0600)] <cindyli1> nice findings, colinclark

[15:21:18 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Hi, sgwcollins12

[15:21:26 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Welcome to the channel!

[15:21:28 CST(-0600)] <yura> colinclark: cindyli1yes, as well as minifying the whole thing

[15:21:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> yup

[15:21:45 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> hello colinclark

[15:21:48 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'm just making a pull request for FSSFive with a trimmed and minified version of infusion

[15:22:01 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> anastasiac: would it help to make a comparable pull request for the Studios site?

[15:22:24 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> colinclark, yes, I imagine it would

[15:22:30 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> ok, cool

[15:22:42 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thx colinclark

[15:23:29 CST(-0600)] <michelled> sgwcollins12: did you have a question for us?

[15:23:44 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> Hey i have a question about the fat panel for the fluid infusion UI option is there a way to use it with previews?

[15:24:01 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Ah, good question

[15:24:24 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> The Fat Panel version of UI options was specifically designed to preview with the whole page, rather than a separate little preview window

[15:24:45 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> In other words, as the user adjusts their settings, they will see them applied immediately to the page below

[15:24:53 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Giving them a real-world sense of the effect of their settings

[15:25:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> sgwcollins12: What effect are you trying to achieve?

[15:26:23 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> Im building a blog on wordpress and basically im trying to use the hide and show button with the preview option

[15:27:33 CST(-0600)] <michelled> interesting sgwcollins12 - are you using Johnny's FSSFive wordpress theme?

[15:28:37 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> noo im using the emire theme that kinda customized to work with the fat panel

[15:31:18 CST(-0600)] <michelled> sgwcollins12: how do you envision the preview option with fat panel? can you talk through how it would work?

[15:34:12 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> okay, when the button is the click to SHOW DISPLAY PREFERENCES there will be UI options and the preview screen and adjusting the UI would not affect the whole page until you selected save and apply

[15:34:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Fat Panel really isn't designed for that kind of an interaction

[15:34:53 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Our designers felt pretty strongly that users want to see the effect of a change on the actual page

[15:35:05 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> okay i understand now

[15:35:07 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> You could use one of the other flavours of UI Options if you want a preview

[15:35:25 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> In theory, you could probably make up your own flavour of the Fat Panel that does include a preview

[15:35:31 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> but I think you'd be adversely affecting usability

[15:35:46 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Any particular reason you felt like you wanted a separate preview inside the Fat Panel?

[15:38:44 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> I thought it would look better with design if user's would know exactly what they were changing before they were changing it

[15:39:19 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> but it would make sense not to seeing as though the page is already being previewed

[15:42:31 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> but is the hiding and showing aspect only an option in the fat panel UI?

[15:43:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'm not sure I understand your question

[15:46:47 CST(-0600)] <sgwcollins12> Is the fat panel UI the only flavour of fluid infusion that can hide and show the UI when it is clicked?

[15:48:54 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> ah, I see

[15:48:57 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Yes, it is

[15:49:10 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> The other ones are a bit larger

[15:49:17 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> typically designed to be on their own page

[15:49:45 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> There's no reason you couldn't host one of the other flavours inside a sliding panel, but they'd take up a lot of screen real estate when they opened up

[15:49:48 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> so probably not ideal

[15:50:35 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> anastasiac and michelled: Just to confirm, the Studios also suffers from Johnny's case bug

[15:50:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I can fix it in my pull request if it helps

[15:50:54 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> it means you both will get the exact same pull request

[15:50:58 CST(-0600)] <michelled> that would be great colinclark

[15:51:09 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> which I guess answers our speculative question about how to manage changes to both FSSFive and the Studios

[15:51:21 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> in short: make two separate pull requests with the same changes in them, one to each repo

[15:51:25 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> not exactly elegant

[15:51:27 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> but it works

[15:51:40 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> It certainly works a lot better than the equivalent thing would with SVN

[16:30:37 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> michelled: Is there a component in JIRA now for the Studios site?

[16:32:23 CST(-0600)] <michelled> nope colinclark - I didn't think to make one

[16:32:34 CST(-0600)] <michelled> the JIRAs seem to be filed against Infrastructure

[16:32:39 CST(-0600)] <michelled> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4566

[16:32:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'll do so now if you want

[16:32:53 CST(-0600)] <michelled> sure - thanks

[16:34:56 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> michelled: Should I make a component or a whole new project?

[16:34:59 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> It's interesting