fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-11-01

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[08:18:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> hey jamon, let me know when you want to switch to handbook.fluid re: colin's email
[08:24:19 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: checking mail from teh weekend now
[09:03:52 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: we need to coordinate today over some urls – will you tell me what would be a good time for you?
[09:04:14 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: as far as i know, handbook is the only one that needs changing?
[09:04:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: from Colin's email: 6. Prepare redirects from the main FLOE site to the Handbook for the URLs Jutta included in the Hewlett guidelines (Jess and Jamon, can you coordinate this?)
[09:05:19 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> any time this afternoon then jessm
[09:05:42 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i'll ping you at 2p
[09:06:44 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: colin and i discussed urls last week, noting that it would be best to use .htaccess files instead of apache, who can i work with here to show how to do that?
[09:13:41 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: ^
[09:15:43 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i can do .htaccess if need be
[09:15:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> happy to do it – we can discuss more at 2p.
[09:15:59 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> sure
[09:28:30 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, do you know who is the point person for the dev version of fluidproject.org? smriti needs an account, and I don't even know what the url is these days, let alone how to log in (smile)
[09:29:46 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: that was greg and heidi_, but i think i have a login, one moment and i will check
[09:31:50 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: done, she's an admin now
[09:32:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cool - can you tell me what the url is, for future reference?
[09:32:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon: ^
[09:34:51 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: if you register here i can make you an admin too: http://dev.inclusivedesign.ca/user/register
[09:35:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon i don't manage that site, nor does greg as far as ai know
[09:35:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> for fluidproject.org , not inclusivedesign
[09:35:45 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, ok, maybe I wasn't clear - smriti needs an account on the dev version of fluidproject.org
[09:36:07 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I tried dev.fluidproject.org, but that's not working right now
[09:36:17 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> oh anastasiac, my mistake, misread your url
[09:36:22 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> np (smile)
[09:36:27 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> there isn't a dev.fluid as far as i know
[09:37:10 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm... there was at one point... ok, let me double-check with smriti, maybe I'm misunderstanding her
[09:39:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac i think she was asking for an acct if a dev.fluid existed
[09:39:45 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ok if not
[09:40:03 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yeah - I'm checking with her to find out what she's working on, etc.
[09:57:59 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, jamon, smriti was, indeed, looking for access to a dev version of fluidproject.org. she's adding some content, and jessm suggested that she do the work there, first. We definitely did have a dev version at one point, when the site was first put up. Maybe that can be resurrected?
[10:01:06 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: nothing in dns or on our servers, so it will have to be done from scratch. want me to coordinate with smriti and jessm on that anastasiac?
[10:01:41 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, that would be great - thanks
[10:02:06 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> k
[10:14:31 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: we had a dev site for fluidproject.org at utoronto
[10:15:02 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i'm wondering how involved it would be to get it set up again?
[10:50:29 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: we can discuss it at 2pm
[11:26:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon are you doing server stuff
[11:27:03 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> for accessibility.floe
[11:28:05 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: sent an email to everyone about it
[11:30:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon: cool thanks
[11:32:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon how do i make mediawiki not cache right now?
[11:33:44 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: cache what?
[11:34:24 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon i dunno haha... n/m
[11:34:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i just have to hard refresh all the time and its annoying
[11:35:10 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> ah yes, there must be an extension for that
[11:35:18 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> or a setting somewhere
[11:38:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon i set $wgUseFileCache = false; in localsettings.php but nothin
[11:40:45 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: firefox?
[11:40:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ya
[11:41:17 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> about:config
[11:41:26 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> (browse there)
[11:42:11 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> then you can set browser.cache.disk.capacity to 0, and browser.cache.memory.enable to false
[11:42:25 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> keep in mind that is global and will persist
[11:42:47 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: change them back when you're done doing development
[11:43:36 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> that wokrs - thanks
[12:02:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon any idea how i could edit generated on the fly css?
[12:03:09 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> it's setting a link colour from some generated style
[12:03:52 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: if you have an id or class, grep for it through the source?
[12:04:07 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> the class name is "new" :|
[12:04:22 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> but ya ill look.... ughh
[12:04:25 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> that makes me sad
[12:04:38 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> me too!
[12:05:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i also need to figure out how to install an extension
[12:05:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> so i can get prev/next page urls
[12:05:29 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: those go in /extensions
[12:05:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> k
[12:05:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i'm stressed
[12:06:08 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: i have to eat, but i can help when i'm back and done with jessm
[12:06:17 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon that'd be awesome thanks
[12:55:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: so for all the refactoring work that you've had to do for inline edit recently, there doesn't seem to be an ideal jira to fit this under. I've created a new jira http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3821 for it.
[12:55:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> I'll add this to the bug parade as well
[12:56:30 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Justin_o: thanks for creating the jira (smile)
[12:56:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: np (smile)
[12:57:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm sending out an update to the bug parade now. You should see it on there
[12:57:35 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok
[13:11:15 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: ping
[13:11:42 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: i'm here
[14:32:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, any ETA on setting up def.fluidproject.org?
[14:32:49 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> s/def/dev/
[14:34:37 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: maybe we should chat about that too?
[14:35:06 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> sure - in a sec (on 'phone' with jess)
[14:35:09 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> k
[14:52:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon do you know how to make something other than main_page the default start pg
[14:57:15 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: not sure, seems like you have to edit MediaWiki:Mainpage
[14:57:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i can't edit the title tho
[14:57:35 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i'd like introduction to be first
[14:59:34 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: does this help? http://wiki.umd.edu/help/index.php?title=FAQs_Admin#Change_the_title_of_the_main_page_from_.22Main_Page.22
[15:00:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yes, thanks. ill try it
[15:00:40 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i think it is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ
[15:09:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> thanks jamon, think i did it. wikis are weird
[15:10:27 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> they are, yes, thankfully, mediawiki has decent documentation to compensate a little
[15:11:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, the start page of the handbook is now the introduction, well done!
[15:11:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> (smile) thanks haha
[15:12:22 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac - think start page should be TOC or intro page ?
[15:13:04 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> my personal choice would be the introduction, at least for now. especially since a link to the TOC is right there at the top, for people who want it
[15:14:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah i think that's good too
[15:34:34 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> Bosmon: are you around at the moment
[15:36:48 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: anastasiac: jamon: redirects are done – thanks anastasiac
[15:36:58 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> np!
[15:37:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cool, it works!
[15:37:44 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: we're all set with making sure everything is called "inclusive learning" or "Inclusive Learning Handbook"?
[15:38:05 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> thanks jamon we're posting at handbook.floeproject.org now
[15:38:28 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> we're working on making it look hot
[15:38:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, I've changed what I've found, and heidi_ has changed other things. I think we're good to go, but feel free to ping us if you find anything we missed (or fix it yourself)
[15:38:55 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> k, i'll keep an eye out
[15:39:50 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: anastasiac: only things left are from Colin's email: (3) hotness, (4) switching to the skin as default, (5) design card that James is working on now, (7) writing that anastasiac and I are on now
[15:39:53 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> looking good folks
[15:39:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> !
[15:39:58 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heroes
[15:40:11 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> a team effort, for sure
[15:40:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi there golam - just looking over the v8 of your patch
[15:41:03 CDT(-0500)] <golam> ok cool
[15:41:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> The idea of consolidating the "step" functions was not simply to put them in the same file - but actually to consolidate the code (tongue)
[15:41:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cool... i still have a bunch of things ... if anyone has time... jamon? need to figure out how to edit the user & page links... want to trim both down
[15:41:33 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> As you will see, the two versions contain a lot of repeated material
[15:41:55 CDT(-0500)] <golam> that's the next step I am planning on doing
[15:42:21 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'm still also suspicious of the "projectFrom" tests - they don't yet appear to test the disabling of wrapping properly
[15:42:27 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: what's an example url you want to trim?
[15:43:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jessm like the links " * Page * Discussion * Edit * History * Delete * Move * Protect * Watch
[15:43:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> "
[15:43:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> to view & discussion & edit i think for now
[15:43:49 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I mean - they do seem to perform some testing in this case - but they don't specifically test that the item projects to the correct target as they do in the case when wrapping is enabled
[15:46:11 CDT(-0500)] <golam> proj.cacheelem returns undefined when proj.wrapped return false
[15:46:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_remove_a_tab_on_all_pages
[15:46:57 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> does that do it?
[15:47:34 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> or this
[15:47:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_add.2Fremove_tabs_throughout_my_wiki.3F
[15:47:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jessm ah, it hides stuff via css. sure that works - thanks
[15:47:52 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> that too - thank you!
[15:47:59 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: sure thing
[15:48:04 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i think jamon might be gone for the day
[15:48:04 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> need to check this out on IE sometime too
[15:48:09 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> and validate etc...
[15:48:18 CDT(-0500)] <golam> in GeometricManagerTests we are just testing projecFrom but in ReorderGridTest we actually test both logicalFrom and ShuffleFrom->which calls projectFrom
[15:49:23 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, I'm thinking particularly of the geom.projectFrom test
[15:49:38 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Shouldn't it then be impossible to get a return of "wrapped = true" when you supply "disableWrap"?
[15:50:00 CDT(-0500)] <golam> how do I get the same element back when disableWrap is true
[15:52:13 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, as you say, you get no cacheelem in this case
[15:52:20 CDT(-0500)] <golam> Bosmon: when disableWrap=true and wrapped=true and you are wrapping an element the wrapped will become false
[15:53:00 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But you appear to have a test branch making assertions when disableWrap is true and wrapped = true
[15:53:01 CDT(-0500)] <golam> Bosmon: I should say only the edge element
[15:53:12 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Why isn't that impossible?
[15:58:59 CDT(-0500)] <golam> assertProject("Right3", 3, "RIGHT", 0, true, disabledWrap); let say disableWrap=true then it will not return the toIndex element but if you have assertProject("Right0", 0, "RIGHT", 3, true, disabledWrap); and disableWrap=true then toIndex element will be 3
[16:00:32 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> Bosmon, golam: i wonder if the name of "wrapped" could be something like "couldWrap" or something. Would that make it clearer?
[16:00:56 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jessm - footer txt ?
[16:01:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> & or anastasiac
[16:01:37 CDT(-0500)] <golam> yes the we could change the name to couldWrap
[16:02:06 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, good question. I'd expect the footer to contain thinks like a reference to the funders; license information...
[16:02:29 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> contact info?
[16:03:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, the styling is looking great, by the way. Have you had a look at what the Contents listing looks like on the Techniques page?
[16:04:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac - thanks. yeah too narrow. ill fix
[16:05:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i think ill keep the box the full width... see what james thinks
[16:05:14 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i like it better
[16:06:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, definitely better on the Techniques page. I can see on the Intro page why you might want it narrower, but I think it still looks fine
[16:11:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> golam, justin_o - I see part of what is confusing me here
[16:12:07 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> So, all of the calls to "assertProject" pass the value of "disabledWrap" as the 6th argument to the function
[16:12:13 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> but in fact, this value is completely ignored
[16:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I was actually mistaking the 5th parameter for the 6th one
[16:12:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And yes, I agree with the renaming of the 5th parameter to "couldWrap"
[16:12:59 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> This will make things much clearer
[16:13:10 CDT(-0500)] <golam> Bosmon: ok sounds good
[16:13:12 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: let's stick with the footer txt from floeproject.org
[16:13:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ok
[16:15:45 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jessm incl hewlett logo?
[16:16:47 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: let's leave it out for the footer and keep it simple
[16:16:52 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> k
[16:19:56 CDT(-0500)] <golam> Bosmon: please comment on the Jira if you find other issues, once the consolidation is done then I will ping you
[16:20:30 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, any thoughts on the Techniques text so far?
[16:20:59 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm crawling my way through making minor edits
[16:22:39 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, I'll be in transit for the next half hour, but I'll get online at home, so if there are any changes you'd like, or more content, or anything else I can do, let me know
[16:22:53 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_: ^
[16:23:01 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: thanks a million anastasiac i'll ping you
[16:23:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cool
[16:33:20 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> Bosmon: when you are happy with golams patches could you please commit them
[16:33:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: is the text on the handbook small?
[16:33:59 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jessm : no
[16:34:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> is it for you?
[16:34:08 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i for one am going to be glad when we have UI Options hooked up to it and I can mess with text size – i think my eyes are wigging out
[16:34:18 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: i might have sleepy eyes
[16:34:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> puppy ate my glasses last night :o
[16:34:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> oh no!
[16:34:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> crunch, ouch!
[16:34:48 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> puppies are crazayy
[16:35:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah ui options will be so cool
[16:35:39 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> heidi_: I thought they only ate homework
[16:35:52 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> hehe. apparently not !
[16:41:47 CDT(-0500)] * jessm is learning math with MediaWiki (smile)
[16:48:37 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It's really great, isn't it
[16:48:39 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bosmon
[16:48:42 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Look at this one
[16:49:04 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Although I failed to figure out how to get maths support configured on my own MediaWiki....
[16:49:18 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> Bosmon: i meant the adding it makes me do with each edit e.g. 87+10
[16:49:29 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> our math homework might look a bit different (smile)
[16:50:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Oh, I see... I guess we are more afraid of spam than Wikipedia
[16:50:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Since we have a smaller army of copyeditors (tongue)
[16:56:54 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon: are you gone?
[16:57:13 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: i think he is...
[16:57:20 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> darn ok
[16:57:33 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: anything i can help with?
[16:57:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> need to install a table on the db
[16:57:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> (tongue) i might be able to do it through ssh
[17:04:44 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: not a bad commute!
[17:04:53 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> on foot, no less (smile)
[17:05:32 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> impressive
[17:05:42 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm still crawling through, making small edits
[17:05:45 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> this is good stuff!
[17:05:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i've gotten through learner profiles
[17:05:57 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> and have also done accessforall
[17:06:07 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> so, have a look and let me know thoughts you have
[17:06:18 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> some of the later techniques seem a bit short to me, but I'm not sure how to make them longer
[17:06:21 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'll have a look at your edits
[17:06:29 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks for going over them!
[17:09:14 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: thanks for writing them!!
[17:16:20 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, your edits all improve upon my writing - thanks!
[17:16:36 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'm curious about the last word of the first sentence of AccessForAll
[17:16:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: oh, cool
[17:16:52 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> hold on a second
[17:17:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> you took the s off 'learners'
[17:17:48 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> ah, that's a mistake
[17:17:50 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> good eyes!
[17:18:17 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: it takes a village!
[17:19:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cool - just checking
[17:27:16 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: i've gotten a first pass
[17:27:50 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, looks great!
[17:27:57 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jessm what's 2-5 ? ha... math (smile)
[17:28:03 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: well i suspect there's more that we can do
[17:28:10 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> there's a certain cadence to each one
[17:28:17 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> the only phrase I was wondering about is "non-mouse"
[17:28:35 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> first the issue or situation is presented, then the OER solution, and finally how that solution makes things accessible/inclusive
[17:28:50 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: yeah, nix that non-mouse if you're feeling it
[17:29:08 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> haven't come up with an alternative yet, but if I get inspired...
[17:29:08 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> can you also give each one another glance for this cadence stuff?
[17:29:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> will do
[17:29:19 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> thanks muchly
[17:29:28 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> I've got to go walk my PANTS again (smile)
[17:29:42 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ?
[17:29:52 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> Princess Prancy Pants
[17:29:57 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> aka: the dog
[17:30:27 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, I suspected so, but wasn't familiar with the nickname
[17:30:45 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: generally anything starting with "P"
[17:30:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> that's certainly shorter than Tumbly McNumRumper from Orangeville
[17:30:59 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i'll be back
[17:31:05 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> LOL Orangeville!
[17:31:06 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> love it
[17:31:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> orange cat
[17:31:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> http://www.orangeville.org/
[17:31:46 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> (big grin)
[17:32:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Pumpkin the cat, so anything that rhymes with "um"
[17:50:44 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, heidi_, my only remaining question is about the links in the pink box at the top: are they going to be updated to actually reference the relevant content?
[17:51:03 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac - workin on that now and james is cleanin up small css fixes
[17:51:16 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> excellent! it's really looking good!
[17:51:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> phew... i'm scared to look at IE
[17:51:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> soon
[17:51:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> LOL
[17:51:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> and validator says a bunch of offending script tags ill have to hunt down
[17:51:47 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> oyyy
[17:52:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, if there's anything I can do to help, let me know
[17:52:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> thanks, will do
[17:54:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, fyi I just had a quick look in IE, and I don't see any obvious problems
[17:54:54 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> phew
[17:55:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i also need to figure out how to actually remove links from the user and page lists vs. hiding them via css (bad)
[17:55:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> wikis hide a lot of that stuff... it's tricky. tricky wiki
[17:57:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i made a jump link to jump to the content....should it go to the top of the content links (disucssion, edit, etc) or the page content list, or the actual contents :|
[17:57:47 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ^ anastasiac thoughts ?
[17:58:11 CDT(-0500)] * anastasiac looks
[17:59:29 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, hm... interesting question. the point of these jump links is to make it faster to get where you want, right? so I would think that 'jump to content' would jump past the links, to the content
[17:59:48 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> maybe to the contents
[18:00:00 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> i.e. the page content list
[18:00:42 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> but I wouldn't think it should jump to the discussion/edit links
[18:01:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah... but usually one can pull up headers with AT so maybe past the sub-toc too
[18:02:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> good point
[18:33:22 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> how's it going gang?
[18:33:28 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: anastasiac: hanging in there?
[18:35:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yepp
[18:36:07 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> james is finishing up styles, then i'm going to get the next/prev fixed up
[18:36:35 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: anything i can do now?
[18:37:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> thanks jess, think its ok. i'm going to validate at the end
[18:46:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: everything look good on your last pass over the Techniques section?
[18:48:23 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, yes, looked good to me - thanks so much for your edits - much improved with them
[18:48:52 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> you're too kind
[18:50:54 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jessm "page discussion edit" links
[18:51:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> should they stay or go (for tomorrow)
[18:52:29 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> are all three functional?
[18:53:03 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: i should ask, why wouldn't we keep them?
[18:53:24 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> they work yep
[18:53:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> james is suggesting we ditch 'em
[18:53:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> but not sure how collaborativey we want things to look. maybe its fine
[18:53:46 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> if we ditch them, how will we edit the pages?
[18:53:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> we want collab!
[18:53:58 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: text got bigger, eh?
[18:54:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> james at work (smile)
[18:54:29 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> cool
[18:54:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> the text in the page contents listing is big...
[18:54:55 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: i think we want it to appear open and welcoming from the beginning – so i think it makes some sense to leave them
[18:55:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cool
[18:55:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> has james looked at the Techniques page, heidi_?
[18:55:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i just sent him there (wink)
[18:55:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> dats some big text
[18:56:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok - the second level text is actually bigger than the first level
[18:56:31 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: i have attempted to edit the postgresql schema to add the hierarchy table, try enabling the extension in LocalSettings.php. i don't know if it will work
[18:57:30 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon thanks i might've found a work-around... but that's awesome thanks !
[18:57:51 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> heidi_: it might explode the site, if it does, remove the lines from LocalSettings.php
[19:05:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon okee thanks. will try not to explode site
[19:05:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> dinner time bbs
[19:07:12 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i'm heading out again too heidi_
[20:11:47 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> back
[20:26:15 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon it's still caching stuff - does the server maybe?
[20:26:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> n/m
[20:27:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> :|
[20:39:21 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jamon let me know if/when you're back? thanks
[21:08:39 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: i'm going offline – you ok?
[21:08:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ya
[21:08:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> nighto jess
[21:09:00 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> heidi_: it's looking awesome
[21:09:07 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> thanks
[21:36:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> we're good jamon - i went with static prev/next for now. g'nite