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fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-02-20

fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-02-20

Feb 20, 2009

[08:09:37 EST(-0500)] * Justin_o (n=Justin@142.150.154.171) has joined #fluid-work
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[09:05:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Heya
[09:06:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: hello
[09:06:36 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I have everything on the deployment server sorted out now.
[09:06:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll be in soon, and can help with any last bundle tests for the 0.8 package Eli posted.
[09:07:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Looks like we're in the home stretch of the release.
[09:07:43 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Thanks for your checklist.
[09:07:58 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> no problem...
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[10:37:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: hello
[10:38:13 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: g'morning
[10:38:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> just getting settled in
[10:38:28 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> did you do any testing this morning
[10:38:30 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ?
[10:38:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay... just going to give you the update on the testing
[10:38:36 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes
[10:38:47 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> basically everything seems to be okay... except for one thing
[10:39:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ?
[10:39:30 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> the sakai-site-settings pager demo seems to through an error in IE 6 in regards to an invalid character on line 1
[10:39:50 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> this is when using both the source and minified fluid-all.js files...
[10:39:50 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> with which bundle?
[10:39:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> both
[10:39:59 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> OK
[10:40:19 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm going to try it now with the individual js files...
[10:40:33 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> but it's OK with other platforms/browsers?
[10:40:34 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> also... if i close the error it seems to work okay
[10:40:39 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yep
[10:40:40 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> hmm?
[10:40:54 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i opened up the files and can't seem to see the invalid character either
[10:41:11 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> and there are no other errors with other files on that browser?
[10:41:20 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> also is the json2.js supposed to be in fluid-all.js
[10:41:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> not that I noticed
[10:42:02 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: I'll have to look into that. I suspect that it is
[10:42:09 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> and you're saying that it isn't there?
[10:42:16 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i don't think so
[10:42:19 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> crap
[10:42:30 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i was getting an error in opera and left it in, and it went away
[10:42:41 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: OK, firing up Aptana
[10:42:49 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> also i didn't notice it in the build.properties file
[10:44:42 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> it's in the build.xml file (I just checked), you're right that it's not in the build.properties file but that might be OK
[10:44:52 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'll let you know in a minute
[10:44:59 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay.. thanks
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[10:47:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: it's in the Fluid-all.js, I've just checked the source version, moving on to the minified version
[10:48:59 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay... thanks
[10:49:25 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: OK, it looks like it's there too, although it painful to find anything in the minified version. (I think that I need a different editor... switching)
[10:49:44 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i have returned
[10:49:48 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay... I'll double check that error in a minute
[10:49:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: All is cool on the deployment server
[10:50:04 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: good morning and thanks!
[10:51:15 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> morning
[10:51:36 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: it seems like it happens with the individual js files too
[10:52:13 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: damn, TextMate is just choking on the minified Fluid-all.js (yep, just crashed) I think that it doesn't know how to do the fancy formatting on it
[10:52:34 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: thanks, so that's a bug and not a bundle problem
[10:52:44 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> hmmm....
[10:53:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> except if it doesn't happen with Trunk
[10:53:21 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: can you confirm that it happens or doesn't happen with trunk?
[10:53:39 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: So Justin_o just caught me up on this particular issue.
[10:53:40 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Or am I missing something, 'cause I'm not fully awake... the tea is only half drunk
[10:53:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> If we're not seeing the character encoding issue in Fluid-all.js, then I think we're fine to ship.
[10:54:03 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: i'll double check trunk
[10:54:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Sounds like Justin_o is struggling to actually find the special character.
[10:54:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So for a single file in the sample-code directory on a single browser, I think we're cool to ship with.
[10:54:31 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: pretty sure that Justin_o found the problem first in Fluid-all
[10:55:09 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: it doesn't happen in trunk but it does happen when i switch to all the individual js files an not us the fluid-all.js file
[10:55:28 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> maybe it's a cache issue though.. i'll clear out and try again
[10:55:42 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: OK, I told colinclark the wrong thing... sorry, I missunderstood
[10:56:19 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> np...
[10:56:50 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: OK, this morning it's Chinese classical music, since I'm alone and there's no one to bother
[10:57:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Awesome!
[10:57:24 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Judy was very tolerant of my 70s R&B and Soul yesterday
[10:57:45 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I don't know why I feel compelled to tell people what I'm listening to as I do the release
[10:58:09 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran, colinclark: Okay i think the problem is this line <script type="text/javascript" src="lib/trimpath.js"></script>
[10:58:21 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> I don't think that file exists anymore either
[10:58:40 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: you're the boss, and we're happy to hear about it.
[10:58:47 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> which causes an error in opera
[10:58:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> maybe we can all synchronize our music choices to yours for the day
[11:00:18 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: sorry, what file is that declaration in?
[11:00:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> found it
[11:01:05 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sorry... should have specified that
[11:01:06 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o and colinclark : that file is not in the source in trunk
[11:02:36 EST(-0500)] <laurelw> ecochran: did you speak yesterday to anastasia about the changes to the website after the release?
[11:02:52 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> laurelw: no, but she emailed me this morning
[11:03:21 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> laurelw: as soon as we have a working bundle (priority 1 at the moment) I will ping you to discuss
[11:03:41 EST(-0500)] <laurelw> ok...i'll let you know when the site is released and can be updated.
[11:03:55 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: I've never looked at this demo before. There does seem to be some trimpath template code in the file but I don't know if it effects the demo if it doesn't get rendered
[11:03:59 EST(-0500)] <laurelw> i'm assuming we might actually be ready about the same time at this rate!
[11:04:07 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: do you know anything about this demo?
[11:04:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> laurelw: what's your timing?
[11:04:15 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: yep, one sec
[11:04:49 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: not sure...
[11:04:59 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I suppose that I could pipe my music to you via screen sharing
[11:05:14 EST(-0500)] <laurelw> ETA: noon, but we're still working on it
[11:05:20 EST(-0500)] <laurelw> before 3 anyway
[11:05:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran, laurelw: I just sent an email to you guys + anastasiac about how we'll handle the release with the website.
[11:05:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> In short, we'll post the bundle to the web server, since this is a standalone directory that doesn't affect the CMS.
[11:05:51 EST(-0500)] * ecochran reading colinclark's email
[11:06:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We'll send out an announcement to the fluid-work saying that it's out, but that our website is being updated.
[11:06:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We'll hold off on the official announcements until the new site and the associated download page is in place.
[11:06:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So that we're "loosely coupled" and can sync up whenever it makes sense to.
[11:06:50 EST(-0500)] * ecochran can't find colinclark's email, but colinclark is summarizing nicely
[11:07:13 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Ok, so your other issue...
[11:07:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran, Justin_o: Can you just reiterate what you're seeing?
[11:08:26 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> basically it looks as though the sakai-site-settings.html file has a script tag <script type="text/javascript" src="lib/trimpath.js"></script>
[11:08:33 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> that is calling a file that no longer exists
[11:08:45 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> what he said
[11:08:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: ^
[11:09:06 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> this throws an error in opera... and that invlaid character error in IE 6... the still works though, once you close the error message
[11:09:21 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, I am here
[11:09:23 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> "invalid character"
[11:09:26 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ha
[11:09:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> not you, Bosmom
[11:09:44 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Bosmon:
[11:09:45 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, I was summoned
[11:09:58 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> no, you're not an invalid character
[11:10:12 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o
[11:10:13 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> :
[11:10:13 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> basically it looks as though the sakai-site-settings.html file has a script tag <script type="text/javascript" src="lib/trimpath.js"></script>
[11:10:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> [08:08a] Justin_o:
[11:10:16 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> that is calling a file that no longer exists
[11:10:26 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Bosmon: ^
[11:10:57 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes
[11:11:05 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, I did see that
[11:11:14 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> And yes, I can confirm that the file is not there
[11:11:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o
[11:11:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> :
[11:11:21 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> this throws an error in opera... and that invlaid character error in IE 6... the still works though, once you close the error message{color}
[11:11:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: So do we need to remove the file reference, or what's going on?
[11:11:36 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yeah, you may as well remove it
[11:11:52 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> The days when I can make good on my concept of "compiling Fluid templates into trimpath templates" is not yet here
[11:12:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It's so interesting that this happens only in the bundle, not in trunk.
[11:12:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Ok
[11:12:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So here's what we'll do:
[11:12:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Let's remove that broken file reference.
[11:13:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o will test and confirm.
[11:13:03 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Then we're back on track.
[11:13:13 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So weird that we didn't hit this earlier in the process, but we'll roll with it.
[11:13:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It's a localized change, so again, it needn't trigger a whole new QA cycle.
[11:13:30 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> So.... this happens with IE6... the bundle is different to trunk how?
[11:13:32 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o
[11:13:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> is going to file a JIRA for it.
[11:13:39 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> It hasn't had any references replaced with fluid-all, I guess
[11:14:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Well, that's not quite it.
[11:14:13 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Which is what makes it weird.
[11:14:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o is going to triple check it, since it seems so bizarre to him.
[11:14:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It seems that both the src-dist and minified dist have this error...
[11:14:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> even when not linking against Fluid-all.js
[11:15:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But running it against trunk, we don't see it.
[11:15:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So there should be no difference between trunk and the distribution.
[11:15:36 EST(-0500)] * ecochran is going to wait for Justin_o to triple check
[11:15:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> That's why Justin_o is going to triple check.
[11:15:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: +1
[11:15:43 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well.... what is the difference between trunk and the distribution?
[11:15:58 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> this really should happen in the trunk as well if I read the code correctly
[11:16:23 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> the only other difference is that i running trunk off the build site and the others are local
[11:16:38 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well...
[11:16:44 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: interesting
[11:16:47 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Does it happen too if you run off trunk locally?
[11:16:55 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'll try that now
[11:17:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> aha
[11:21:18 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay... so it does have from trunk if run locally
[11:21:48 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran, Bosmo1, colinclark : ^
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[11:22:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Ok, that clarifies a bit.
[11:22:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So, anyway, the root cause is this invalid reference to Trimpath that slipped through?
[11:23:00 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> that's what i think it is.. but Bosmon could probably clarify
[11:23:03 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And if so, let's file the bug and remove it from the file.
[11:23:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: You should do the actual commit, Bosmon can review it.
[11:23:15 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And then we're sailing again.
[11:23:30 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: please to send the JIRA number, oh King!
[11:24:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark>
[11:24:13 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: very tempted to recommend punting on this... seems like a browser localized bug in sample code, we have worse
[11:24:26 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> that only happens locally
[11:24:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: I'm okay with that, too.
[11:24:48 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Indeed, it sounds like everything still works if you dismiss the dialog.
[11:25:02 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> on IE, Justin_o can you confirm same on Opera?
[11:25:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: it does through an error in opera too... from the build
[11:25:23 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> from the daily build site
[11:25:38 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> although it isn't linked to from there
[11:26:00 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: what do you think of my suggestion that we punt this to 1.0?
[11:26:29 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'm not trying to get out of work... I just would like to minimize changes to the bundle at this late date
[11:26:32 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> I'm open to that.... as the pages still work
[11:26:43 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Although truth is we still need to tag and rebuild a new bundle
[11:26:53 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark, Justin_o: ^
[11:27:26 EST(-0500)] * ecochran votes to punt
[11:28:54 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm going back and forth on this one.. it's not a huge issue, but it should be simple to fix... i just don't like the error messages i guess...
[11:29:59 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o and colinclark:I guess I'm fine either way. This is my first release and it's been a bit rocky so I'm getting cautious
[11:30:11 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I grant that the fix is localized and feels safe
[11:30:29 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> and I have to rebuild the bundles anyway, so ...
[11:30:41 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> anyone else want to chime in?
[11:31:09 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I think the impact of the fix is clear: because it is an include in the HTML file, it fundamentally can't affect anything but the site settings example.
[11:31:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So it's safe, were we to make the fix.
[11:31:39 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Remove the reference, test. Make a new build, test a bit more. Maybe an extra 20 minutes?
[11:31:52 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sounds about right
[11:32:14 EST(-0500)] * ecochran changes his vote
[11:32:24 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> let us proceed
[11:32:37 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: i'll file the blocker now and give you the jira number
[11:32:54 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2278
[11:32:58 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: thank you
[11:33:12 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> np
[11:35:33 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: were are we with testing the bundle in general?
[11:35:43 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> that would be it
[11:35:52 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> the rest of the test plan is done
[11:36:13 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: OK, seems like we should run this bundle off the tag
[11:36:19 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> do you concur?
[11:36:47 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> of course I have to make the tag, but that's what I'm asking
[11:37:27 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think that should be okay....
[11:38:00 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> theoretically removing that script tag shouldn't affect any file, not even the one it is in as it is not used
[11:38:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Can you just double check Eli's FLUID-2278 commit?
[11:39:49 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> ok
[11:41:56 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> got tired of Chinese classical music, switching to I am Robot and Proud
[11:43:58 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon>
[11:44:09 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Sorry to take so long, it is taking me a while to fight through SVN and eclipse...
[11:44:56 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, ok
[11:44:58 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> FLUID-2278 is fine
[11:45:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Bosmon: thanks!
[11:45:28 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o and colinclark : starting the tagging process
[11:45:34 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Great!
[11:46:07 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: I tested the build site and it seems to working well... i'll just double check your tagged bundles when they are done
[11:46:21 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> checked for the opera issue that is
[11:46:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: thanks, I'm doing the smoke test that is in the Tagging instructions now
[11:49:17 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay
[11:49:22 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o and colinclark : cutting the tag
[11:49:40 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[11:53:59 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> everyone: just a reminder that the Trunk is still closed until the bundles are tested and accepted
[11:54:17 EST(-0500)] * ecochran is building new bundles
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[12:01:08 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: I've just posted the latest bundles to http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2236
[12:01:54 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: just for the record, these were build from a fresh check out of the fluid-0.8 tag
[12:02:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay thanks... i'll double check to make sure that error is no longer present
[12:02:36 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: I'm testing the unit tests to make sure that there is nothing obvious
[12:02:49 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> good idea, thanks
[12:03:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: I'll also do a file diff with trunk
[12:03:25 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay
[12:10:55 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: error is gone
[12:11:07 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: most excellent
[12:11:22 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> o
[12:11:29 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: all the files in trunk are in the source bundle
[12:11:29 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm going to close off that blocker now
[12:11:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: +1
[12:12:05 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: all the unit tests have been run on FF3 from both bundles
[12:12:42 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: what testing would you like seen done before we sign off on the bundles?
[12:12:55 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> and the tag
[12:13:19 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> this page has the testing that I have done on the bundles http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Release+Package+QA+Test++Plan
[12:13:55 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> before the fix
[12:14:41 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> maybe a quick test using the minified Fluid-all.js just to double check everything
[12:14:56 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: technically this is a new build, however, since we've compared the files to the trunk and we know what the changes are, it feels that we can be fairly secure that things are good.
[12:15:28 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: +1 to testing the minified Fluid-all.js
[12:21:21 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: a quick test on IE6 seems good
[12:21:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> looks like it is all working
[12:21:39 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: ah, the worst offender!
[12:21:51 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: thanks, I feel good about this
[12:22:06 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yep me too...
[12:25:45 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: OK, I'm almost ready to move on, need to respond to a couple things here
[12:39:59 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: The bundles are ready to post to the ftp server.
[12:40:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Okay, great.
[12:40:12 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I don't have the location or credentials
[12:40:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We're waiting on laurelw to deploy the new site, and I'll go ahead and upload them once we have the nod from her.
[12:41:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> She's moved the entire directory structure, so my initial plan of just sneaking the release in alongside the new website work won't quite happen.
[12:41:15 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But things are apparently going well with moving over the new site.
[12:41:23 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> OK, so I'll move on to reopening trunk (it's NOT open yet... all you code jockeys)
[12:42:46 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: confirming, the next version will be 1.0?
[12:43:40 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Yep, the next version is 1.0
[12:43:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Been waiting a long time for this one.
[12:44:02 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> <nervously>Woo Hoo</nervously>
[12:44:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: And just in time for the release, I have finished all the Uploader documentation.
[12:44:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> nervously?
[12:44:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Yeah well, 1.0 feels so final and there is so much to do!
[12:45:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: 1.0 is only the start!
[12:45:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But there is lots to do.
[12:46:02 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> it definitely ramps up the stakes... it's great
[12:46:20 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: speaking of 1.0 ... now that 0.8 is out... can I move our browser support to match yahoo's updates
[12:46:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Totally your call.
[12:47:30 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> Okay.. i'll change the browser support page and send out an e-mail to the list
[12:48:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Great5.
[12:48:58 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I'm a little unsure about something. The documentation says to update the pom and project files to x.x-SNAPSHOT (x.x being 1.0 in this case). However, it doesn't look like we did that for 0.8. Looks like we went right to 0.8 in those files (unless I'm reading the history wrong)
[12:50:03 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: That was a bug michelled introduced after 0.7...
[12:50:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It should be x.y-SNAPSHOT during development.
[12:50:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> The -SNAPSHOT should be removed when cutting the release.
[12:50:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So it should have been 0.8-SNAPSHOT, but we forgot.
[12:50:39 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: thanks, that's what I thought but got confused when I looked at the history for the files
[12:50:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[12:50:48 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: proceeding
[12:51:12 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: so fluid_0_8 becomes fluid_1_0... soo coool!
[12:51:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark>
[13:46:38 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I'm back. Anything catch fire while I was away?
[13:46:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Nothing
[13:47:08 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> A few more release managery steps left, I guess.
[13:47:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But bundle is posted.
[13:47:15 EST(-0500)] * ecochran sighs
[13:47:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Little things, no worry
[13:47:40 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: yep, I'm looking at the lists now... need to update Image Gallery
[13:47:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> close the 0.8 version in JIRA
[13:48:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> all tiny things
[13:48:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i can help if you need it
[13:49:09 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: thanks will do
[13:52:42 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: someone working on the updating the Downloads page with the 0.8 info. The downloads are there but the rest of the info is 0.7
[13:53:03 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: I'm working on it now
[13:53:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> laurelw doing the real work
[13:53:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm just trying to round up all the material
[13:53:30 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: thanks. I'm updating the Release Documentation to reference the new path
[13:53:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> great
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[13:59:44 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: image gallery is updated... just for the record (since we always forget until we go to actually use it)
[14:00:34 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[14:00:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah
[14:02:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> laurelw: I just checked, and the instructions for updating the demos on the website are included in the Release Process page. So it's all clear how to do it.
[14:02:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And now I can read the instructions and learn.
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[14:10:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark or anyone: anyone know of a slick way to "clone" a page in Confluence
[14:10:36 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: hmmm
[14:10:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> that would be an anastasiac question
[14:10:47 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but she is renovating apartments today
[14:10:52 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yes
[14:11:07 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I think from the instructions hidden inside the Current Release page, there isn't
[14:11:18 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> you just copy and paste the content into a new page
[14:11:24 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: thanks
[14:11:40 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I stumbled over the instructions after asking the ?
[14:20:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: I'm going to have to head out for about an hour or so
[14:20:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> the bundles are posted
[14:20:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> the download page needs to be updated
[14:20:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i'll do that when i get back
[14:20:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> and the demos need to be posted [14:20:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> will also do that when i get back [14:20:50 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: the download page on the website has the right downloads [14:20:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i was foiled in getting them up by the fact that our new server doesn't seem to have a copy of unzip installed on it [14:20:55 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> just not the right info [14:20:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Yep [14:21:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'm doing the wiki pages right now [14:21:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> k, cool [14:21:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Which I think that I'll be able to get done before I have to leave for a long working lunch [14:21:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ok [14:21:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> we should be good [14:21:31 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yep [14:21:45 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: thanks for your help [14:22:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> np [14:22:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> it's been fun [14:22:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> you're a great release manage [14:23:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> r [14:23:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> it seems to me that we can comfortably cut a release in two days [14:23:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> would like to shorten that [14:23:19 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> me too [14:23:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but two days is lots of time to do it, make some mistakes, and get it up [14:23:47 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And it seems like it's pretty clear where our weakness are: [14:24:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> 1. Keeping dependencies up to date in build.properties [14:24:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> 2. Manually testing Fluid-all.js [14:24:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Anything else you can think of, ecochran? [14:24:38 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> nope [14:24:41 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> that's it [14:25:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Ok, great [14:25:24 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: there is one more thing but anastasia is already on it which is the that instructions can be more proceedural [14:25:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ah, right [14:25:30 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> cool [14:25:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> This has been a good process, then. Documenting everything and then trying it out. [14:26:31 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> and then revising the documentation [14:27:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yep [14:28:15 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: could you look over the Status of Components list on this page: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Infusion+-+Current+Release [14:29:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: We upgraded FSS to Ready for Production status. [14:29:15 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: great, couldn't remember [14:29:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Otherwise, this looks great [14:29:56 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ok, that's done [14:30:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome [14:30:36 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I wouldn't mind being more blunt with this What's New? item: [14:30:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> # Improved Uploader compatibility with Flash 9 and Internet Explorer [14:30:43 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Maybe... [14:31:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> # Uploader now supports all A-Grade browsers with both Flash 9 and 10 [14:31:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ? [14:31:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yep, I like it [14:31:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> this is a big one for us... [14:31:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> broad support [14:31:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> really stable [14:32:10 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yep [14:32:15 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> been a long time coming [14:33:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: we now have a broken reference on this page because the website has changed: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Project+Wiki [14:33:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> this, you mean? [14:33:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> coulld not retrieve http://fluidproject.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,rss,0&amp;cntnt01category=general&amp;cntnt01makerssbutton=true&amp;cntnt01showtemplate=false&amp;cntnt01returnid=74 - Page Not Found [14:33:56 EST(-0500)] <jessm> so, i'm not sure we're solid on the website names [14:34:01 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yep, I think that I can fix it [14:34:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> that's been a recurring problem with the wiki [14:34:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but please feel free to take a look [14:34:19 EST(-0500)] <jessm> did our website pages chnage? [14:34:25 EST(-0500)] <jessm> urls? [14:34:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm can weak anything in the CMS if needed [14:34:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i gotta run, but i'll be back in an hour or so [14:34:34 EST(-0500)] <jessm> indeed [14:34:39 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> cool [14:34:45 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i'm wondering if our urls fundamentally changed? [14:34:48 EST(-0500)] <jessm> ecochran: do you know? [14:34:57 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i know most of them must have [14:35:00 EST(-0500)] <jessm> forget it [14:35:05 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'm looking at that now... [14:35:18 EST(-0500)] <jessm> they did because we changed the info arch [14:35:44 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yeah, but it seems that the feed URLs have changed format [14:38:13 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> jessm: the returnid for news had changed... FIXED [14:38:22 EST(-0500)] <jessm> cool-io [14:39:00 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i'm sure you know this already, but http://fluidproject.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&amp;cntnt01articleid=27&amp;cntnt01returnid=114 [14:39:12 EST(-0500)] <jessm> references 0.7 in the first line [14:39:30 EST(-0500)] <jessm> that's on my end? [14:40:09 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> jessm: actually, I didn't. I haven't been doing the web site tasks... that's one for Laurel and Colin [14:40:41 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> jessm: or yes, I guess you [14:40:44 EST(-0500)] <jessm> yeah, i fixed it – i think that colin was going to get that stuff to laurel who has gone home sick – so i'll get it from him and fix it up [14:40:59 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i'm e v e r y w h e r e [14:41:01 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> jessm: sorry to hear about Laurel [14:41:25 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> jessm: colin knew that he had a few things to get to when he got back in an hour [14:41:36 EST(-0500)] <jessm> cool [14:41:40 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i'll hound him about it [15:11:18 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@12.164.139.7) has joined #fluid-work [15:42:35 EST(-0500)] <jessm> poor blake [16:18:12 EST(-0500)] * Bosmo1 (n=Bosmon@78-105-207-102.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has joined #fluid-work [16:43:25 EST(-0500)] * phiggins (n=dante@c-68-34-199-67.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work [17:14:19 EST(-0500)] * colinclark (n=colin@bas2-toronto09-1176131712.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #fluid-work [17:52:46 EST(-0500)] * clown (n=clown@142.150.154.101) has left #fluid-work [18:10:33 EST(-0500)] * phiggins (n=dante@c-68-34-199-67.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work [20:13:45 EST(-0500)] * colinclark (n=colin@bas2-toronto09-1176131712.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #fluid-work [20:36:58 EST(-0500)] * apetro (n=apetro@ip68-3-207-51.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #fluid-work