fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-03-14

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[11:16:18 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: is anything happening WRT sprint?
[11:16:31 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> can good morning every1
[11:16:39 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> s/and/can
[12:08:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Is there a spring testing channel?
[12:09:08 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> yes.
[12:09:23 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: yep.. i think that's where we are supposed to be
[12:09:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I was just checking the logs to catch up.
[12:10:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Found it. #jquery-sprint-test
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[14:38:27 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> theclown: how's the screenreading going?
[14:51:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: theclown seems to be hard at work on the other screenreader machine at the moment.
[14:52:08 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> awesome
[14:52:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Someone emailed today about my jqUnit work.
[14:52:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> He had done similar work, so set up a googlecode project for it.
[14:53:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And invited me to join. Which is cool.
[14:53:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I would like to see this folded into jQuery itself. Forking is no fun.
[14:53:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: ^
[14:53:48 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> yeah.
[14:54:10 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: we really need to know exactly how to fold stuff in. i'm not sure they have a process.
[14:54:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lots to learn
[14:54:28 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: i guess tickets and patches
[14:55:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Makes sense. There is a legitimate bug hiding behind this work
[14:55:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> You can't use the jQuery test suite if you're also using jQuery in its noConflicts () mode, since it surrenders the $ variable.
[14:55:59 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> (smile)
[14:56:13 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: good. yeah bug.
[14:56:35 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: that's your main change right? to wrap it using the $ pattern
[14:57:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: That and adding jsUnit compatibility.
[14:58:01 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: oh right i saw the adapter map. cool (smile)
[14:58:29 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: i wonder if i should cc you on every a11y bug i create (jquery)... i haven't been :/
[14:58:41 EDT(-0400)] * davidb slaps wrist
[14:58:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Whatevs.
[14:58:48 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: you have good spam filters right?
[14:58:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[14:58:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: I think so. Why?
[14:59:09 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> then i will just add you
[14:59:16 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> -spam
[15:23:48 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> davidb, colinclark: screenreading is...mystifying. starting a write up on some results now.
[15:24:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> theclown: Awesome. Thanks for looking into this!
[15:24:11 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> theclown: for the jira ticket?
[15:24:19 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> davidb: yes
[15:24:23 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> colinclark: wlcm
[15:24:26 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> good (i'll get emailed)
[15:25:02 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> theclown: BTW did you see Michael Coopers email?
[15:25:36 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> davidb: I'm going to use a table to describe the results. i'll add a note/url to the table in the jira (so you get email).
[15:25:50 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> theclown: perfect
[15:25:57 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> davidb: yes, re: michaell, but haven't done anything yet.
[15:26:06 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> theclown: hokeydokey
[15:27:24 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> all.. FWIW: http://www.dojotoolkit.org/forum/dijit-dijit-0-9/dijit-development-discussion/results-review-dijit-widgets-interaction-and-isua
[15:27:33 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> no link yet
[15:28:02 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> "Design Leadership team"... interesting.
[15:28:09 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: ^
[15:29:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Isn't "Design Leadership" and "IBM" oxymoronic? (tongue)
[15:29:25 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> no comment O(smile)
[15:31:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Nice halo.
[15:32:50 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: i try
[15:57:35 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: man. i wish i had the weekend free for jquery.
[15:57:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: me too!
[15:57:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jQuery programming is so fun!
[15:58:02 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> ah well. we can hack anytime
[16:19:55 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: got a sec?
[16:20:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: on phone
[16:20:27 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> ok
[16:20:43 EDT(-0400)] * davidb googles instead
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[16:37:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: sorry about that. I'm off now. Anything I can help with?
[16:38:34 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: i'm looking at http://dev.jquery.com/view/trunk/ui/tests/slider_test.js
[16:38:56 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: being a jquery noob...
[16:38:58 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> what is this[0]?
[16:39:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: A jQuery object is array-like.
[16:39:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So this[0] would grab the first element out of whatever "this" is.
[16:39:30 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> so this is the current jquery array essentially?
[16:39:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Often "this" points to the jQuery instance.
[16:39:48 EDT(-0400)] * davidb nods
[16:39:52 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> that makes a lot of sense
[16:40:11 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> ok... so this[0] is probably used a lot when you know there is only 1 hit
[16:40:14 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: ^
[16:40:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Yes, exactly.
[16:41:25 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: i didn't make the connection that "target: this[0]" was still in the context of a jquery
[16:41:54 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> oh man... Riley is so upset (sad) (immunization)
[16:42:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: #jquery-sprint, #jquery-sprint-dev, #jquery-sprint-test
[16:43:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It's an exciting jQuery day today. (wink)
[16:43:27 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: so hold my hand a little...
[16:43:39 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: this.find("a").triggerKeydown("39") ...
[16:43:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Any time. (smile)
[16:44:49 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> finds the link ('a' tag)...
[16:45:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 1 sec
[16:45:11 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> ... does the triggerKeydown on it...
[16:45:55 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> ok
[16:48:00 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> maybe "does" is the wrong word
[16:48:51 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> michelled: you going to jquery sprint?
[16:49:17 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm sitting in the channel but not participating
[16:49:58 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> michelled: most activity happens in a sub channel
[16:50:04 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> jquery-sprint-XYZ
[16:50:14 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> (it seems)
[16:56:06 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark, michelled: snap! i get it!
[16:56:23 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> duh. sorry to interrupt
[16:56:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> haha
[17:28:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Sorry, I was sucked into phone calls.
[17:28:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Do you still need any help?
[17:28:45 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: no problemo i figured it out - which is probably better (wink)
[17:28:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Awesome!
[17:29:04 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: http://jamazon.co.uk/web/2008/03/13/jquery-accessibility-plugin/
[17:29:09 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> i'm going to ping him
[17:29:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: Great.
[17:30:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Given how polarizing accesskeys have become, I imagine it's a pretty contentious plugin. (smile)
[17:32:37 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: yep
[17:32:55 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> M$ open sourced AccChecker today
[17:32:58 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> (and some UA tool)
[17:33:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Wow!
[17:33:11 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> yeah no kidding
[17:33:19 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> http://www.linux-mag.com/id/5376/
[17:33:47 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> "By releasing AccChecker and UIA Verify as open-source tools," Hodne said, "Microsoft enables the developer community to improve and extend the tools so that they keep pace with developers' changing needs and requirements."
[17:33:53 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> well no #$%!
[17:34:49 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> colinclark: you going to drop into the sprint at all on the weekend? i doubt i can
[17:35:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> davidb: I don't know yet.
[17:35:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Darcie's going seed shopping so I may have a chance to code a bit.
[17:35:20 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> k
[17:38:43 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> have a good weekend all
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