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[07:48:00 CST(-0600)] <Zifi> hi greggy you dere?

[08:01:44 CST(-0600)] <greggy> Zifi: ^

[09:11:39 CST(-0600)] <Zifi> greggy: is the current version by ankit is developed using Zenf framework?

[09:11:45 CST(-0600)] <Zifi> *zend

[09:23:11 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> oh hey, arash has arrived in the channel

[09:23:13 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> welcome!

[09:31:04 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Hey jhung, I don't know if you've followed the thread I copied you on with George from Cloud4all

[09:31:18 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Do you know if the transcript region of the Video Player is working nicely with a screen reader yet?

[09:35:52 CST(-0600)] <jhung> colinclark: Let me check.

[09:36:52 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Cool, thanks

[09:38:25 CST(-0600)] <jhung> It works with NVDA but focus needs to be placed into the transcript container first before it is read back.

[09:40:52 CST(-0600)] <arash> thanks colin

[09:41:34 CST(-0600)] <jhung> I will reply to the email thread colinclark

[09:44:27 CST(-0600)] <greggy> Zifi: yes it does not use Zend, see:

[09:44:29 CST(-0600)] <greggy> https://github.com/ankitbhatnagar2012/google_app

[09:44:42 CST(-0600)] <greggy> it does use Zend, that is

[09:56:21 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jhung: want to join a design chat?

[09:56:36 CST(-0600)] <jessm> arash: welcome!

[09:56:53 CST(-0600)] <arash> hi jess

[09:56:55 CST(-0600)] <arash> thanks

[09:58:35 CST(-0600)] <jhung> jessm: sure. skype?

[13:54:40 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Justin_o and michelled were asking about the semantics of onCreate vs. onAttach for some Video Player work they were doing

[13:54:47 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> unfortunately I was of no use to them

[13:55:24 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: yes. we were wondering if onCreate is supposed to fire when the component is used as a subcomponents

[13:56:14 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - onCreate always fires

[13:56:23 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> onAttach only fires in certain situations

[13:56:39 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: then i wonder if michelled and I have found a bug

[13:56:58 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> we did a quick test and found that the onAttach fired, but the onCreate didn't

[13:57:14 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - that's not possible

[13:57:29 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I suggest you reexamine your test

[13:57:33 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: haha

[13:58:06 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> okay.. we'll try to make you a simple unit test for that and see if it is actually an issue or just something with our particular test case.

[13:58:43 CST(-0600)] <jessm> arash: jvass: jhung: avtar just sent me this: http://demo.websvn.info/listing.php?repname=WebSVN

[13:58:53 CST(-0600)] <jessm> would this be an improvement on what we have

[13:59:59 CST(-0600)] <avtar> there's also this other open source svn web client http://www.viewvc.org/

[14:07:31 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: there was something different about the component we were testing.. it was graded but not autoinited.. should that matter?

[14:08:29 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Yes, it does

[14:08:37 CST(-0600)] <jessm> danayo: you are here

[14:08:37 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> If it is not autoInit, you will not get the onCreate event

[14:08:53 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> But I can't imagine why anyone would write a non-autoInit component these days : P

[14:09:02 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I'm sure we'll make it the default extremely soon

[14:09:19 CST(-0600)] <danayo> yes, I made it past the dragons

[14:11:32 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: okay.. it was because that was from one of our old components

[14:11:37 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> the tooltip wrapper

[14:12:06 CST(-0600)] <jessm> danayo: arash: lemme find a beginner's guide to IRC...

[14:12:24 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Lots of things will be forbidden "soon"....

[14:13:11 CST(-0600)] <jessm> danayo: arash: never mind. here's what you need to know… if you start typing someones name (their "nick") and press tab it will auto-complete it for you

[14:13:24 CST(-0600)] <jessm> so, type 'Bos' and press tab to see it in action

[14:13:30 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Bosmon: wow!

[14:13:49 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Who's that Guuuuuuuuurlllll......

[14:13:52 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> IT'S JESS!!

[14:13:56 CST(-0600)] <danayo> Bosmon: nice

[14:14:00 CST(-0600)] <jessm> danayo: arash: also, to get someones attention you need to use their "nick" to get their attention

[14:14:08 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: i was just watching that show yesterday

[14:14:22 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Bosmon: when do you travel box?

[14:14:26 CST(-0600)] <jessm> bah

[14:14:40 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> A couple of hours

[14:14:54 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Bosmon: have a lovely time

[14:15:20 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> thanks!

[14:37:40 CST(-0600)] <arash> jessm: nice

[14:39:15 CST(-0600)] <arash> jessm: I am looking at the link avtar posted

[14:43:26 CST(-0600)] <arash> I think there would be some advantages and disadvantages if we move to a new SVN. if we are mainly using it to share files, a good naming convention could work with what we already have

[14:47:28 CST(-0600)] <avtar> arash, jhung, jessm: http://lists.idrc.ocad.ca/pipermail/fluid-work/2012-September/008590.html

[14:47:59 CST(-0600)] <avtar> a better web svn client won't address every troublesome bullet point in that post

[14:48:18 CST(-0600)] <avtar> but it does seem possible to directly link to images

[14:48:26 CST(-0600)] <avtar> eg. http://demo.websvn.info/filedetails.php?repname=WebSVN&path=%2Ftrunk%2Ftemplates%2FBlueGrey%2Fimages%2Fwebsvn.png

[14:49:56 CST(-0600)] <avtar> something like this https://onehub.com/features , but an open source solution would be nice

[14:54:21 CST(-0600)] <arash> avtar, jvass: we usually upload .pdf or .ai files to the SVN

[14:54:27 CST(-0600)] <arash> avtar: do you think we could link pdfs?

[15:03:10 CST(-0600)] <avtar> yes

[15:03:29 CST(-0600)] <avtar> http://websvn.projects.ez.no/wsvn/sqliimport/trunk/doc/SQLIImport%20doc.pdf?rev=2

[15:18:41 CST(-0600)] <jessm> avtar: thanks for dredging up that email thread!

[15:19:46 CST(-0600)] <jessm> avtar: our big sticking point has been recurring costs (subscription services). we can't use them. and i think we want to stay away from file storage

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