fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-09-15

[08:39:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> howcome js in infusion trunk is minified... is there a way to access non-min trunk code?
[08:40:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> n/m its in a diff directly ... (smile)
[11:08:43 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> heidi_: am I here?
[11:08:56 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yes michelled you are
[11:09:57 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> do you want to skype?
[11:10:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lets!
[14:34:39 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: athena just mentioned an email she sent to fluid-talk – i don't think i ever got it and the nabble http://old.nabble.com/Fluid---Talk-f28542.html doesn't even show anything from sept. – ideas?
[14:35:24 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: http://fluidproject.org/pipermail/fluid-talk/ archives don't show a sept.
[14:40:31 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: athena resent her msg. and i sent a test – i don't see either
[14:47:20 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: checking
[14:53:44 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> no idea jessm, fluid-work is archived just fine
[14:54:09 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: weird
[14:54:26 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> your message was sent
[14:54:26 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> nothing seems to be getting through fluid-talk
[14:54:32 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> hrm, i don't see it
[14:54:50 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> and athena sent hers just before mine
[14:55:21 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Sep 15 15:46:32 giga postfix/qmgr[8632]: B8BD652AC0: from=<jess@jessmitchell.com>, siz
[14:55:24 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> e=1937, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[14:55:31 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Sep 15 15:46:32 giga postfix/pipe[32618]: B8BD652AC0: to=<fluid-talk@fluidproject.org>
[14:55:34 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> , relay=mailman, delay=0.74, delays=0.55/0.01/0/0.19, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivere
[14:55:37 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> d via mailman service)
[14:57:21 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: weird, i still don't have it
[14:57:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> an no sign of athena's
[14:57:53 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> don't see anything outgoing after mailman
[14:58:08 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> well, what's our next step?
[14:58:08 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> need more time
[14:58:11 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> k
[15:02:47 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: i need you to resend your message
[15:02:53 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> k
[15:03:17 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: done
[15:03:25 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: will take 5-10 minutes to show up
[15:03:28 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> if it does
[15:10:57 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: nothing
[15:11:32 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: still came through, mailman loks to be the culprit
[15:12:38 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> should get a flood of messages in a bit, restarted mailman
[15:13:32 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: why is the mailman not delivering?
[15:14:22 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: was? no idea, maybe lost a socket or something, restarting wipes out whatever state it was in
[15:15:02 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> http://fluidproject.org/pipermail/fluid-talk/2010-September/thread.html exists now
[15:15:12 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: logs don't say anything interesting?
[15:15:55 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> just errors from months ago
[15:17:06 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> in any case, postfix diligently looked after the queue, no messages are lost
[15:17:15 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: alrighty – well, this is a bummer, but thanks for tracking it down
[15:17:22 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i assume you removed mine?
[15:17:29 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hey jess i see test messages from you all of the sudden
[15:17:43 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> oh, ok, so they did go through
[15:17:51 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> like i said, nothing lost (wink)
[15:17:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> athena: i see your message – now sent twice!
[15:17:56 CDT(-0500)] <athena> hurray!
[15:18:02 CDT(-0500)] <athena> maybe the server just felt unloved
[15:18:16 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: infusion-users too
[15:18:27 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: is there a way you can monitor postfix or mailman?
[15:18:35 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> what about infusion-users jessm?
[15:19:11 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: did your reboot just reboot infusion-userst too?
[15:19:33 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> all lists, fluid-talk/work design-commits/commits, infusion
[15:19:40 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: for 5 days!
[15:20:00 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> looks that way
[15:22:37 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i can't figure out any more about it, the server is a crufty old gentoo virtual machine that i can't upgrade without breaking everything
[15:22:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: let's get a migration plan then...
[15:22:59 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i've migrated most stuff (like fluid wiki, jira etc. off)
[15:23:19 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> can you create a new VM and move the mailman stuff?
[15:24:00 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> once our other servers are up and running that's the plan
[15:24:12 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i smell nagios in our future
[15:24:17 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> still waiting on movers, monica has asked already
[15:24:28 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: alread there, with munin, wouldn't have done anything though
[15:24:30 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: do we not have enough server capacity to set up a new VM now?
[15:24:34 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> mailman was not stopped
[15:24:48 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> something had to be throwing an error
[15:25:07 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: everything is on one server, there is no memory to spare, things are running below their allocated limits as it is
[15:25:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: that's a bummer!
[15:26:01 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> just a couple more days hopefully
[15:26:04 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> AC unit is fixed
[15:26:32 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: cool
[15:26:57 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> all that to say, i'm on it, you're in good hands (smile)
[15:27:32 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: thank goodness (smile)
[15:27:53 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: thanks for the reboot – and here's to happier futures with more space to keep up healthy systems