fluid-tech IRC Logs-2012-11-23

[09:10:13 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> Good morning Eastern Time

[09:20:32 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> kasper: What's on deck for the hackathon?

[09:28:12 CST(-0600)] <kasper> good morning central time sgithens

[09:28:50 CST(-0600)] <kasper> what's "what's on deck"? is that like what's planned?

[09:39:22 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> kasper: I think so yeah, just popping in to say 'hi' mostly

[09:39:35 CST(-0600)] <kasper> hehe

[09:40:53 CST(-0600)] <kasper> sgithens: well, it's pretty good.. I'm preparing presentations and getting more and more excited about it

[09:41:12 CST(-0600)] <kasper> but panicking a bit on the inside as well ... but then, what would a hackathon/release be without some panic

[09:42:27 CST(-0600)] <kasper> sgithens: We found an issue with the preferences yesterday, meaning that nothing application specific works .. but yura is neckdeep in fixing it, so still expecting us to be in good shape for monday

[09:42:43 CST(-0600)] <kasper> colinclark: morning

[09:42:47 CST(-0600)] <yura> kasper: well it's a little overdramatic

[09:42:53 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> hahahahah

[09:43:05 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> nothing like some dramer

[09:43:13 CST(-0600)] <kasper> come on.. let me paint some drama for steve here

[09:43:49 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> when do you think we'll likely end up cutting the release? It would be epic if you did it in front of a live audience in madrid

[09:44:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> OX. SHOT.

[09:44:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> How's it going, kasper?

[09:44:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Morning, sgithens.

[09:44:25 CST(-0600)] <kasper> hahaha, yeah it would... but we should probably do some testing before doing a cut

[09:44:31 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> colinclark: Morning!

[09:44:34 CST(-0600)] <kasper> ... though a Beta cut would be possible

[09:44:49 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> lol

[09:45:17 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> You can always treat the hackathon as an opportunity for people who don't have specific tasks to do to help you with release testing

[09:45:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> As I said, worst case, the Hackathon leads up to the official release

[09:46:17 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> that seems like a pretty awesome case... how exciting to be someone just diving in to a software project to be able to help with an official release

[09:46:30 CST(-0600)] <kasper> colinclark: do you have time to meet today? I have 2 gazilion things I want to run by you

[09:47:03 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> sure, i do

[09:47:05 CST(-0600)] <kasper> awesome

[09:47:07 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> sooner is better

[09:47:10 CST(-0600)] <kasper> ok

[09:47:16 CST(-0600)] <kasper> now?

[09:49:22 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> sure, give me five minutes

[10:02:57 CST(-0600)] <yura> colinclark: quick question

[10:03:14 CST(-0600)] <yura> we talked about naming the ontology transformation blocks yesterday

[10:03:42 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> yes

[10:03:45 CST(-0600)] <yura> and ended up calling it "A4A-2.0/registry" that means "to/from"

[10:04:11 CST(-0600)] <yura> no our registry e.g. flat preferences look like this:

[10:04:19 CST(-0600)]

[10:04:56 CST(-0600)] <yura> where my getOntologyName function was inferring the name from A4A-2.0

[10:05:08 CST(-0600)] <yura> sorry from the URI that goes after ontology/

[10:05:14 CST(-0600)] <yura> colinclark: does this make sense ^

[10:05:43 CST(-0600)] <yura> so we are calling flat ontology A4A-2.0 in the URI but "registry" in transformation

[10:07:46 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'm not sure I fully follow

[10:07:52 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> It occurred to me, late last night, that we don't quite have the naming right

[10:08:03 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Since there are two versions of what we call "AccessForAll"

[10:08:51 CST(-0600)] <yura> well ok

[10:09:00 CST(-0600)] <yura> so we have 2 sets of preferences

[10:09:09 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> anastasiac can tell you all about it

[10:09:09 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> but there's the IMS spec, which is officially called AccessForAll

[10:09:27 CST(-0600)] <yura> one the old one is what everyone is calling A4A-2.0 at the moment

[10:09:38 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and then there's the ISO spec, which is only informally called AccessForAll

[10:09:53 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> So, already, when we calls something AccessForAll 2.0, we're actually pointing to the spec we're not using

[10:09:57 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> i.e. the IMS version

[10:10:09 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> which, I realize, is my fault--I suggested the name at some point, or used it loosely

[10:10:19 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> anyway, sorry, carry on

[10:11:18 CST(-0600)] <yura> colinclark: so i just want to have the names more or less consistent since the functionality that infers the name is very simple right now

[10:11:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> yeah, i agree with that

[10:11:36 CST(-0600)] <yura> so the problem is

[10:12:14 CST(-0600)] <yura> we call flat preferences "registry" but say they belong to "A4A-2.0" ontology based on their URI's

[10:13:40 CST(-0600)] <yura> so for it to work without any further code changes right now i would need to change flat preference to belong to "registry" ontology

[10:13:48 CST(-0600)] <yura> otherwise i have to change the way names are inferred

[10:17:23 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> one sec, sorry

[10:17:28 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> kasper is distracting me

[10:17:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> i do want to answer

[10:20:31 CST(-0600)] <yura> k

[10:53:06 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> yura1: do you want to hop on Skype real quick?

[10:53:29 CST(-0600)] <yura1> sure

[14:47:51 CST(-0600)] <yura> Bosmon: ayt?

[14:48:02 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> JURA

[14:54:30 CST(-0600)] <yura> Bosmon: hi , i have a pull request

[14:54:47 CST(-0600)] <yura> that Colin, Kasper and I (and you, yesterday) were chatting about

[14:55:18 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> cool

[14:56:30 CST(-0600)] <yura> let me know

[14:56:56 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Where is it

[14:57:05 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I guess I should subscribe to this repo....

[14:57:07 CST(-0600)] <yura> https://github.com/GPII/universal/pull/61

[14:57:55 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Hmm

[14:57:58 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Seems I am watching it

[14:58:02 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I wonder why I don't get notifications

[14:58:56 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> If I am watching a repo, should I get mails about pull requests?

[14:59:14 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Oh, I did get it

[14:59:17 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> So confused...

[15:00:54 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> yura - did you and Colin say anything in your chat about the need currently to apply ".0.value" to the end of every flat term path?

[15:01:09 CST(-0600)] <yura> no nothing

[15:01:55 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I guess we can deal with that later

[15:02:50 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I think the pull looks good

[15:03:25 CST(-0600)] <yura> ya we changed the names slightly

[15:03:34 CST(-0600)] <yura> and i updated the inferring function

[17:20:40 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> w0000t!

[17:21:35 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> I'm about to flex the testing framework for the first time adding in the unit tests for the nodedbus bridge

[17:21:41 CST(-0600)] <sgithens> I am very excited

[18:20:36 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> w0o0o0o0t1!1!