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[12:35:44 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> good morning
[13:06:03 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> michelled - I have a newbie question for you
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[15:55:54 CDT(-0500)] <croby> hey everyone, i have a question on the layout reorderer
[15:56:50 CDT(-0500)] <croby> I can't find anything in the API (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Layout+Reorderer+API) that lets me specify all columns are droppable – right now if I have a 4 column layout, and nothing in column 3, i can't seem to drop in column 4
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[16:26:59 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> hello
[17:30:57 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> ?
[17:42:20 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> hi croby, most of the team in toronto were working on packing up desks and equipement etc. for a move to another university here in toronto
[17:42:41 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> croby: i'd expect things will be busy tomorrow here since people will be working from home until next tuesday
[17:44:35 CDT(-0500)] <croby> jamon: thanks for the info!
[17:45:26 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> croby: very exciting time, great new workspace
[17:45:55 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> it won't be more than a couple months before you can just have a video call with people on the team
[17:46:15 CDT(-0500)] <croby> oh, i guess I didn't realize the move was a physical one too - elicochran was filling me in on some of the details
[17:46:18 CDT(-0500)] <croby> very cool!
[17:46:47 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> yes croby, i managed to get the virtual machines (and physical server and disks) moved this past weekend
[17:46:56 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> hopefully you didn't notice
[17:47:51 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> jamon: there seems to be some trouble in getting the DNS to propagate. I can't hit any of the fluidproject.org servers, but croby can get to them from Seattle
[17:48:00 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> I'm in the SF Bay AREA
[17:48:27 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: that's oddd
[17:48:39 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> the ttl is set to 300s, so any changes should only take 5 minutes
[17:48:48 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i had that set last thursday
[17:49:09 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> traceroute never gets there
[17:49:20 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> it could be a problem with my cache
[17:49:27 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: is it going to 142.150.154.17 or 205.211.169.17?
[17:49:37 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> let me look
[17:50:09 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> 205.211.169.17
[17:50:56 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: has the failed traceroute only just started happening?
[17:51:22 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> it's going now
[17:51:25 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> not failed yet
[17:51:45 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> 15 * 38.20.55.222 (38.20.55.222) 71.199 ms
[17:51:45 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> vl3552.na03.b011027-0.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.66.54) 71.629 ms
[17:51:45 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> 16 * * *
[17:51:45 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> 17 * * *
[17:52:24 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> I just had someone in the office who has never been to fluidproject.org hit it and they also can't get there
[17:52:36 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> she's not tracerouting tho' that's just nerdy me
[17:52:51 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> odd elicochran, it resolves no problem for me from dallas
[17:53:26 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i think you're making it to toronto judging by the yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com hop (yyz being the toronto ICAO code)
[17:54:57 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> hmm
[17:55:46 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> when it fails, I'll send you the whole traceroute
[17:55:57 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: wonder if it is a DNS or something else issue, can you test ssh to 205.211.169.17
[18:01:06 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> jamon: 205.211.169.17
[18:01:22 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> ssh: connect to host 205.211.169.17 port 22: Operation timed out
[18:01:49 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: ok, so it's not just dns, it's a network issue
[18:01:52 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> that is good to know
[18:02:22 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: could you pm me your public facing gateway address and i'll try traceroute to it?
[18:03:02 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> hmmm... not sure I know how to find that (I'm only a semi-nerdy)
[18:03:32 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: checkip.dyndns.org is a great tool for that
[18:03:47 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> simple, and easy to parse programmatically
[18:03:56 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> 169.229.212.70
[18:08:54 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: that is strange, i can't get to you from the host server either
[18:09:26 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: yet i can get from dallas to your berkeley address
[18:09:36 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> so there's a break somewhere... probably a problem in the middle somewhere
[18:09:51 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> no Toronto love for Berkeley, I gues
[18:09:56 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> guess
[18:10:17 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: yeah someone is dropping packets, i can get to fluid from montreal no problem
[18:10:47 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i'll try raising a ticket with them tomorrow, it may take time to escalate up the chain
[18:11:09 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> if you could send me a full traceroute fluidproject.org and "traceroute -n fluidproject.org" that would help immensely
[18:11:36 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> -n turns of dns resolution so it is much quicker and less prone to failure if there's a dns problem
[19:13:11 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> jamon: what's your email?
[19:14:00 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: use jamonation+fluid@gmail.com
[19:14:30 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> traceroute on it's way to you.... gotta run
[19:14:34 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> elicochran: it would be immensely helpful if you had a moment to try from home too
[19:14:37 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> thanks!
[19:14:42 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> will do
[19:14:51 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> night
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