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[13:22:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Hey
[13:24:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: hello
[13:24:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I've just created a new IRC channel... #fluid-wwdc
[13:24:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll share the news there.
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[15:23:39 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Bosmo1: hi
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[17:26:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I attended a Symbian Foundation "hackathon" across the street from WWDC at lunch today.
[17:26:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> They'll be mailing me a Nokia 5800, and I've got the contact of someone there in the hope that she can donate a number of devices for us to develop with.
[17:27:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Their Web Runtime (WRT) is quite cool, but I worry a bit about how disorganized Nokia is as a company. Apparently each new device runs a different version of the OS, frameworks, and WebKit, and the choice is entirely up to the individual team.
[17:28:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Meaning a new phone may hit the market running an older version of WebKit than a phone from six months ago, based on when the team froze their environment.
[17:28:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> colinclark: nice hardware pick up... i'm not surprised about the different versions of the OS but am shocked about the different versions of Webkit and that a newer phone could be running an older version
[17:29:03 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> that's unfortunate
[17:29:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> justin_o: It was a bit of a surprise to me.
[17:29:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I was talking with Nokia's product manager for the WRT, and he said it's something they're trying to address.
[17:29:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Anyway, hopefully we can get some free hardware from Symbian and get Engage up and running there are some point soon.
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[17:30:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm now in the super-secret portion of the conference...
[17:30:39 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> yes... that news from that keynote about apple's a11y plans for both the iPhone and Snow leopard are quite impressive...
[17:30:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> but I can tell you that I love the way Bertrand Serlet pronounces the word "Cocoa."
[17:30:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[17:30:58 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> (smile)
[17:31:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> The a11y plans are pretty mind blowing. I'm very excited... just trying to scan through this doc:
[17:31:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
[17:31:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That Everett sent along.
[17:31:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Well, I don't want to run out of batteries, so I'll be back.
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