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[10:08:04 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> justin_o: are you going to be creating a 1.1 release status page on the wiki?
[10:08:25 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: hadn't thought about it, but i could
[10:08:35 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> that would be great.
[10:08:39 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure...
[10:08:46 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> there are instructions here if you want them: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Release+Process
[10:09:11 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> thanks
[10:24:22 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: how does this look? http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+1.1+Release+Status
[10:25:22 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> pretty great list of resolved issues as we start 
[10:25:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> justin_o, why is there an asterix next to "Time line"?
[10:25:47 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> i actually just got rid of that
[10:25:50 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o>
[10:25:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so you did
[10:26:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> The known issues section is not rendering
[10:26:05 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> is it a JIRA issue?
[10:26:11 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> oh let me check
[10:26:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it works for me
[10:26:32 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> anastasiac, michelled: me too
[10:26:40 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> not sure why you aren't able to
[10:26:47 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> works for me now too
[10:26:58 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay.. probably just slow to get all of the issues
[10:28:06 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> is everything else okay... i was going to make mention of the web interface for the custom build, but figured I should wait till there was something to link to (in the what's new section)
[10:28:13 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled, anastasiac ^
[10:28:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> looks good Justin
[10:28:24 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> thanks
[10:28:49 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I think it's fine to leave the build interface out for now
[10:29:05 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... thanks
[10:41:09 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> i have written a document – it is woefully awful – it needs some sweet, careful, considerate eyes: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Infusion
[10:41:29 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> and I think it would also benefit from ruthless eyes too
[10:50:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> by the way, i'd been meaning to ask if the "How to create a Fluid component" tutorial might be linked more prominently
[10:51:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i've found it to be particularly helpful not just in writing fluid components, but also just in generally understanding how fluid code is arranged and what things like "selectors" and "listeners" really mean
[11:14:46 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> that's good to know athena. justin_o put a lot of work into it
[11:15:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it should be linked from the development page on the wiki - I'm not sure it is right now
[11:15:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think it's not in the list of tutorials yet
[11:15:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> justin did a great job writing it - it's been a huge help
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[11:18:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I added it to this page under 'component development' http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Development
[11:18:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> any other suggested places?
[11:19:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> tutorials - good point
[11:35:18 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> no feedback on FLuid Infusion page? ^
[11:35:41 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled: justin_o: ?
[11:36:04 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jessm: yes
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[11:36:12 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sorry - I'm in a cspace meeting at the moment - I'll look at it after
[11:36:19 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> ah
[11:36:20 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> cool
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[11:55:54 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jessm: looks good... i've made some moderate changes, before michelled looks at it. You may want to review them to make sure they are still inline with your direction
[11:58:07 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> justin_o: awesome! thanks
[12:01:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> np
[12:15:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> athena, michelled, I've updated the Tutorials page with a link to the "how to create a component" tutorial: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Tutorials
[12:16:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks!
[12:16:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> for those of us who learn best by doing, i think that's a great resource
[12:17:24 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac would be one of those people
[12:18:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> me too
[12:19:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> "climb on our backs..." jessm, I like that!
[12:19:43 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> anastasiac: cool!
[12:23:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jessm: I wonder if we should say that we are deferring to jQuery for all their great cross browser support.
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[13:31:47 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled: i was under the impression that jQuery plus a good bit of work from us was lending itself to cross-browser stuff – e.g. FSS. If I'm wrong, then yes, we can say jQuery directly
[13:39:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> you are right, jessm, it is jQuery + Infusion.
[13:40:46 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled: i was thinking i needed to say something about jQuery but wasn't sure what it might be...
[14:22:46 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: do you have a second for a question about ant
[14:23:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sure
[14:23:59 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> do you know how to do wildcard characters in ant... like *
[14:24:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> in what context?
[14:25:36 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> for tokens
[14:25:52 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> if you look at the build.xml file in svn you can see wildcards being used for including files
[14:26:40 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> like "*/test/" for example
[14:27:13 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I'm trying to use the filter task
[14:27:30 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> it will work if i give the exact string inside the delimeters, but not if i try to use "*"
[14:27:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> do you have the code somewhere?
[14:28:39 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> just on my machine... did you want a patch
[14:29:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> maybe just pastebin it
[14:29:13 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> yes... probably easier... what was the address for that again
[14:30:13 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://fluid.pastebin.com/
[14:30:48 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> thanks
[14:30:52 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> here it is
[14:30:53 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> http://fluid.pastebin.com/m5970c4f3
[14:31:37 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> basically all that does is to copy all of the html files into a new directory called rewritten. While copying it will replace a portion of text <"remove"> with GONE
[14:34:11 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> you may also notice that way I had to specify special characters such as "<" for "<"
[14:36:05 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sorry justin_o I'm a little distracted at the moment - I'll look at this more closely in a few minutes
[14:36:42 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure thanks
[14:47:38 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: okay... i think i have to use the ReplaceRegExp task... i'll try to see if I can get that one to work
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[16:48:42 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> jsilvaa, I've fixed those uploader demo links on the wiki - thanks for catching that
[16:48:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> please do let us know if you find any more broken links!
[16:49:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we restructured our SVN, and we're still finding the occasional spot where we missed a fix
[16:49:19 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> ok... will do. I wasn't sure if I was in the right place
[16:49:35 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> I'll ask here next time
[16:49:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thanks!
[16:50:43 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> anastasiac: actually, my SVN checkout did output some "external resource unavailable"
[16:51:05 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> anastasiac: do you want me to send you a log?
[16:51:09 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sure
[16:51:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sounds odd...
[16:52:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> jsilvaa, if you can, include the actual URL you tried o check out from
[16:52:31 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> I'll grep the messages so you don't get the rubish
[16:52:44 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> svn co http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid
[16:52:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh - wrong URL!
[16:52:59 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> ha! there you go
[16:53:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> well, it might work, but you'd be downloading waaaay more stuff than you need!!
[16:53:16 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> try http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/trunk/
[16:54:02 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> anastasiac: got it from here: http://fluidproject.org/products/fluid-infusion/download-infusion/
[16:54:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> whoops!
[16:54:38 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we'll fix that - thanks for catching it!
[16:54:57 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> :-D... yay! I did my first job for FLUID!
[16:55:07 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> wait, where on that page did you get it?
[16:55:07 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> jsilvaa: first bug fix already woot woot!
[16:55:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the link I see is to the tag: http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/tags/fluid-1.0/
[16:55:36 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> SVN
[16:55:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> "SVN: Infusion 1.0 Source Code" ?
[16:56:05 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> yes... I stripped the subfolders... wanted to get the whole thing
[16:56:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ah, well, there's your problem
[16:56:24 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> maybe not necessary?
[16:56:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> that link is to "the whole of infusion"
[16:56:38 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> jsilvaa: this is a good point
[16:56:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the whole svn repository has much more in it than infusion!
[16:56:57 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> we had a conversation about this a little while ago and decided to leave fluid, non-infusion packages in fluid svn
[16:57:04 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> anastasiac: is that what we're running into here?
[16:57:04 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> well I just wanted to get "fluid"... seemed reasonable to do
[16:57:12 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> jsilvaa: twas
[16:57:30 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, I guess it's a bit confusing - we don't have anything that explains our repository structure, and what all the bits are
[16:57:43 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> this stems from the confusion around all the names
[16:57:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes
[16:57:51 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> might be worth being clear somewhere
[16:57:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> indeed!
[16:58:01 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> +1
[16:58:23 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> m'kay – more documentation!
[16:58:30 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> gtg
[16:58:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> always
[16:58:36 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> 
[16:58:36 EDT(-0400)] <jessm>
[16:58:40 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> kidding
[16:59:21 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> from /fluid i see gallery-portlet, image-gallery, infrastructure, infusion, and pattern-cms
[16:59:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> right
[16:59:56 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> so, assuming that "all of Fluid" means the /fluid directory
[17:00:16 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> we could put a simple readme at that level – is that a way to address this?
[17:00:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we probably need a multi-pronged approach
[17:00:38 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> a readme would certainly help
[17:00:51 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> jessm: there is still the issue of the broken svn reference... lemme find it
[17:00:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> a commend on the website download page explaining that the link that's there is the entire infusion package would also help
[17:01:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> maybe a wiki page would help
[17:01:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> different people come at this from different sources
[17:01:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's good to cover all the bases
[17:01:22 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> yes to the multi-pronged approach
[17:02:16 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'http://fluid.pastebin.com' set by anastasiac on 2009-05-01 17:02:16 EDT(-0400)
[17:02:20 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> anastasiac: seems the website prong will be easiest
[17:02:38 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yep
[17:03:23 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> jessm, anastasiac: here it is... svn: URL 'https://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/components/trunk' doesn't exist
[17:03:42 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> its a warning on svn checkout
[17:03:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ah, right
[17:04:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> some of the other project express their dependency on Fluid through an SVN externals property
[17:04:38 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> apparently, at least one of those projects wasn't updated to reflect the new svn structure
[17:04:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> jsilvaa, do you know which project failed?
[17:05:19 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> checking...
[17:05:24 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> just changed the website: http://fluidproject.org/products/fluid-infusion/download-infusion/
[17:05:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> jessm, that looks good, thanks!
[17:06:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> jsilvaa, do you think the text that jessm put on the site would have prevented you from modifying the path?
[17:06:15 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> anastasiac: maybe... Fetching external item into 'fluid/infrastructure/gallery-build/fluid-components'
[17:06:24 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> (not sure)
[17:06:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> gallery build - ok, that helps, thanks
[17:06:34 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> let me check the site
[17:08:15 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> anastasiac: I don't think anything would have prevented me from modding the path... I have a tendency to want to break things
[17:08:30 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac>
[17:08:44 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> but the notice does help to let me know i didn't really need to
[17:09:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> excellent
[17:10:20 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> anastasiac: sometimes I do diffs on separate folders too to track recent changes... its all good, that one svn warning is the only I got
[17:10:33 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> only one
[17:10:34 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, thanks
[17:11:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> g'nite, all, and have a great weekend!
[17:11:49 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> np...
[17:11:52 EDT(-0400)] <jsilvaa> you too!
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